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When reading through Marx I can't help but think that capitalism has gotten even worse today than it used to be back then, meaning that the actual mechanisms that drive capital now need much more exploitation and in more forms than they used to.

Also I wonder if some changes of capitalism have also caused the working class to be so completely numb. Workers of the 19th and 20th century knew that the capitalists have opposite needs to them and only through fighting them could they stand to improve their situation. However today people just seem uninterested to really fight for themselves despite the proletariat being a much larger percentage of society compared to the past. I know I'm leaving out some important struggles going on when I'm saying this, but it still makes me wonder what made workers in the past centuries so much more class conscious.

I don't believe that much, if anything, that Marx critiqued about capitalism has changed on a structural level, but the flow of capital is so complex today, and the collected capital has become so much larger, that it begs the question if this has created some superstructures of capitalism today.

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[–] vacuumflower 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Technologies of today and experience of the past:

  1. Propaganda addressed to many different layers and partitions of the "metropoly" and "colony" societies, individualized more than previously,

  2. Twiddling everywhere - fast, precise, automatic reaction to whatever you're doing,

  3. Surveillance everywhere, more feedback than people of the 50s could imagine,

  4. Worldwide economic integration being much harder to "abuse" (to disobey its hegemons),

  5. For some time it seemed that the Marxist part of the specter generally failed in fixing its problems and delivering upon its promises, and the "imperial" part generally didn't, it's only recently that it became visible that both were doing it as part of the Cold War,

  6. Minimization and computing create necessity for reexamination of all the political and social knowledge of the past, because that was based on the possibility of secrecy, privacy, and the reality around us generally changing not too fast for human psychology,

  7. Learning lessons of the colonial elites getting the wrong fashion (Marxism) from the metropoly, thus separation of layers inside the metropolitan societies, to both have an empire and not have new decolonization efforts.

And also it's not worse, it just seems harder to defeat, but it's not worse. Workers even in poor countries live better today than then.