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How do we even know if AGI is achievable? I don't know anything about this topic but as far as I've heard AGI might actually just be impossible.
If you define it in a "artificial person/as smart as a human/can do anything a human can do" sort of way like I usually see, then yes, we know that it is possible, because if it were impossible for a system with human-equivalent capabilities to exist, than humans couldn't exist, and well, we clearly do. That being said, that doesn't mean that all we need to do to make one is to just feed more and more data into our existing AI tech.
I mean when you put it like that it makes a lot more sense, but even that requires a sort of technology to accurately build a brain that works the same way a human brain does. Maybe AGI can be built but we have none of the resources to synthesize a human brain?
If nothing else, it seems reasonable to assume that a computer could run a program that does all the important things 1 neuron does, so from there it's "just" a matter of scaling to human brain quantities of neurons and recreating enough of the training that evolution and childhood provide to humans. But that's the insanely inefficient way to do it, like trying to invent a clockwork ox to pull your plow instead of a tractor. It'd be pretty surprising if we couldn't find the tractor version of artificial intelligence before getting an actual digital brain patterned directly off of biology to do it.
We don't, thats the neat part. It might be like proving God. Impossible to prove its impossible, but maybe possible to say "look see its real whoops shitshitshitturnitoffhelp"
i think that these tools will probably be foundational to discovering more about the human mind and how words or images are received, stored, and assembled in the brain, but people like sam altman and elon musk are convinced that there is nothing else to a ‘person’ beyond that.
‘humanity’ is an emergent phenomenon, and that is what makes it special. a few other animals have the beginning of it, but none have all of it like we do. you don’t need a god or any kind of religion to understand this. as far as we know, we might be one of the least likely things to ever happen in the universe, ever.
There's no definition of 'human intelligence' in the first place.
We know it's not. It's Zeno's paradox.