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[–] Gladaed@feddit.org -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just because absurd but promising ideas were tried when they maybe shouldn't have does not mean the government is stalkingyou.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No, we know the US government is stalking us more from the Snowden leaks than what's listed here.

But also, "absurd but promising ideas" is whitewashing this stuff to a truly ridiculous degree. This stuff wasn't like, "We think psychic powers might exist so we'll test if people can tell what card I'm holding." We're talking about intentionally infecting black men with syphilis to use as guinea pigs. Was that "an absurd but promising idea?"

How about Donald Ewen Cameron, who was paid by the CIA to pose as a legitimate doctor and abduct Canadian citizens who came in with everyday symptoms like headaches, and he'd put them in months-long comas and electrocute them and inject LSD and do God knows what else to them because he burned his research notes?

That's only the tip of the iceberg. You might as well say that Josef Mengele just let his curiosity get a little bit out of hand.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mk ultra sounds pretty smart. And it is. If stimulants could reduce your risk of death would you not use them?

Some medical experiments of the past don't hold up to modern scrutiny and also were abhorrent at the time.

But the government is not stalking you personally. There is no van of cops following you at all times.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Mk ultra sounds pretty smart. And it is. If stimulants could reduce your risk of death would you not use them?

I have no idea how these sentences are connected.

There is no van of cops following you at all times.

No one said there was?

[–] Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Who said that?