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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

passing that buck back to democrats I see.

Stein was a candidate not grounded in reality. West was barely even talked about outside of independent voter circles.

the only candidate that had any real hope of winning against Trump was Harris. not because she was the best. because she was the only candidate put forward by the opposition party, and she wasn't Trump. she was the only candidate with a history with voters. she was literally the only candidate talked about other than Trump.

The DNC wasn't trying to win the election, they were trying to stay in power.

Independents were not trying to win the election, they were grasping for power.

the failures of both parties and their ineptitude allowed the Trump regime to steal the seat.

2024 was a pivotal moment when both democrats and independents should have put their differences aside and put forward a singular candidate that wasn't Biden, Harris, Stein, or West.

Instead the American public got the same old song and dance, which the republican party has proven they can work around again and again.

so, whose fault is it that Trump gained the seat again? American voters who failed to read the room and pass their votes grounded in reality. not the DNC. not Independent organizations.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

passing that buck back to democrats I see.

I'm not passing the buck. I'm giving them credit. Not voting for Harris was the right thing to do.

Stein was a candidate not grounded in reality.

Stein wanted to stop arms shipments to Israel. Trump and Harris wanted to continue them.

Stein wanted universal, single-payer healthcare. Trump and Harris did not.

I could go on and on, but if Stein wasn't "grounded in reality", then neither is progressivism.

2024 was a pivotal moment when both democrats and independents should have put their differences aside and put forward a singular candidate that wasn’t Biden, Harris, Stein, or West.

Wouldn't it make more sense to unite behind a candidate who already had ballot lines and party infrastructure? I supported Rocky Anderson in 2012. He was trying to build out his party during his presidential campaign. He was not able to get on enough ballots to get the required number of electors to win. I did not vote for Rocky Anderson in 2012.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

I'm not passing the buck. I'm giving them credit. Not voting for Harris was the right thing to do.

still refusing to take any responsibility.

Stein wanted to stop arms shipments to Israel. Trump and Harris wanted to continue them.

an ineffective way to maintain diplomatic ties with a country that helps our country maintain control of the middle east. a poor choice that would only allow Russia or the Saudis to grasp complete control which would only further expose the US to foreign attacks.

Stein wanted universal, single-payer healthcare. Trump and Harris did not.

that will never happen until all of Congress is filled with politicians that are willing to allow that to happen. Also, Stein lacks the tactics and connections in Washington to even start the conversation to accomplish this.

I could go on and on, but if Stein wasn't "grounded in reality", then neither is progressivism.

I'm glad you're starting to catch on. progress happens slowly and just winning an election won't fix all our problems. voting for Harris would have fixed one problem. Trump.

Wouldn't it make more sense to unite behind a candidate who already had ballot lines and party infrastructure? I supported Rocky Anderson in 2012. He was trying to build out his party during his presidential campaign. He was not able to get on enough ballots to get the required number of electors to win. I did not vote for Rocky Anderson in 2012.

who the fuck is Rocky Anderson? you want regular Americans to vote for people they have never heard of before. this is what I mean by "grounded in reality".

a candidate that has zero recognition, zero national contributions, zero prospects, zero experience has zero chance of ever becoming president.

wouldn't it make more sense to unite behind a candidate that has a chance of blocking the most powerful governing seat in the world from the worlds most corrupt criminal? even if that candidate wasn't perfect for the job, they still would have been better than allowing the corruption to fill the seat and ruin it for generations.

🤷 we'll never know how bad or good it could have been though, so no use in arguing over it.