I know that the context of this request doesn't give much room for a genuine exchange without snark; but I'm genuinely interested in a source that doesn't come from the West or any of it's funded proxies like the national endowment for democracy or its captured institutions like the United nations.

[+] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It makes it pretty hard to provide evidence when you won’t look at any of the sources.

Is the International Court of Justice also a captured western liberal organization in your mind too?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They'll have legitimacy once they prosecute netanyahu.

Surely there's some source outside of captured media/institution somewhere like it is w Palestine if it exists.

[+] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with you there.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I added this before you responded and I share it because I literally cannot find such a source and don't want to believe that my pessimism is correct.

Surely there’s some source outside of captured media/institution somewhere like it is w Palestine if it exists

[+] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Ukrainian Genocide Allegations Case Revisited after the Russia’s Counter-claims Admissibility Order

The Genocide Case Against Putin is Stronger Than You Probably Think: Part 3 – Stealing Ukrainian Children

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the article doesnt even say that a ukrainian genocide happen, you didn't even read it. it is a legal text that talks about how russia needs to prove russian genocide in the donbass region. the whole thing started because ukraine wanted to show it was not commiting genocide in donets luhansk, and russia argued this genocide would give them legal basis under the genocide convention.

[+] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The first article is showing that Russia’s excuse for their invasion which was them saving the Ukrainians from a genocide isn’t really flying in court and as for the second article which was part 3 of a series of article directly about the topic.

In this final post of a three-part posting (Part 1, Part 2), I will argue that the way Russia has conducted these transfers proves genocidal intent. The first essay outlined what I have labeled the “cultural genocide exclusion doctrine,” or simply “exclusion,” which is epitomized by the International Law Commission’s twin claims that: 1) the Genocide Convention’s drafters omitted all acts of cultural genocide, and 2) that they intended to restrict the convention’s reach to instances where a perpetrator intends a group’s material destruction. I also pointed out that the Genocide Convention’s text contains no indication that it excludes matters of cultural genocide and in fact appears to embrace many cultural aspects of group life.

I did read the articles and I’m questioning if you did.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i read the first and there it talks about hyphothetics. nevertheless this isn't proof, three hasn't been a ruling about this, and this case is about both ukraine's genocide allegation and russia's.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

the freedom of information act provides a quick & easy litmus test for things like this -- and opiniojuris.org fails it.

since 1979, the freedom of information act has been proving that the western characterization of north korea as a hermit kingdom with despotic rulers was american manufactured propaganda -- and almost 50 years later, opiniojuris still believes the propaganda somehow.

this isn't some random conspiracy theory -- this is the american 👏 fucking 👏 government 👏 itself effectively admitting it to the public and in writing almost a half century ago that they manufactured this propaganda, but opiniojuris.org still believes in this propaganda anyways so there's no reason to listen to what they have to say about ukraine.