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I look forward to the rational dispassionate discussion of the paper in the comments.
This article is [Opinion], based on unpublished [Epidemiology]
Source Publication - https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cdnut.2025.106040
abstract
This fits into my current bias that red meat is not a problem, that carbohydrates and processed oils are problems associated with red meat consumption, this paper is accounting for that with the HEI (healthy eating index).
The full paper is not available... yet, so nothing really to analyze. Articles like this really shouldn't exist in the news... at least the author needs to read the real publication and not a abstract which is just opinion.
There have been a few studies looking specifically into this type of thing. The problem is that consumption of red meat tends to be correlated with poor diet, e.g., people who eat a lot of fast food end up eating a lot of meat, and very little fiber, lots of saturated fat, etc.
I remember hearing of a study that split people into tertiles of low, medium, high meat consumption and low, medium, high vegetable consumption, and the conclusion was that in people who consume a lot of veggies (who generally have a good diet) do not experience any negative effects of high meat consumption. I can't find the exact study, but I did find a study that seems similar (looks at meat consumption while controlling for diet quality using the HEI), and the one I'm thinking of is probably from the same lab.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sabine-Rohrmann/publication/236042790_Meat_consumption_and_diet_quality_and_mortality_in_NHANES_III/links/00b7d51d12a8fa827f000000/Meat-consumption-and-diet-quality-and-mortality-in-NHANES-III.pdf
The trouble with NHANES is its observational epidemiology, we can find both positive and negative correlations with red meat i..e [Paper] Grilling the data: application of specification curve analysis to red meat and all-cause mortality
If we control people for the Standard American Diet (no sugar, no processed oils, no processed food) - they will do well regardless of the specific intervention. I have epidemiology that shows people do meat on higher red meat consumption... but it has the same problems.
I have strong opinions on Standards for Nutritional Evidence
There are populations where consumption of red meat isn't necessarily correlated with a unhealthy diet like hong kong, and the Mediterranean (yes, many people in the Mediterranean actually eat red meat).