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[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know fine well what it is, an authoritarian state with a great deal of control over the people living under it. You can argue that this authoritarianism is justifiable because it's the best way to bring about communism, but it's still auth left. Heck, we currently live under an extremely authoritarian right wing system, so it could be less authoritarian than the current system but still remain authoritarian in the full balance considering alternatives, and thus auth left.

I hope this helps clear things up for you.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What is a "non-authoritarian" state? You didn't answer my question, you just restated your assertion. What "alternatives" exist?

My position is very clear: the state is a tool by which one class oppresses the others, and this is by definition authoritarian. A working class state, no matter how democratic it is for the working classes, is still authoritarian as it oppresses the rest. This is a necessary step forward towards stateless society, however.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, great, so we're all in agreement here, Marxism-Leninism is auth left. That's the only point I care to discuss here.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Again, you never clarified, do you mean anything with a state is "auth?"