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How do you argue with someone to explain why Marxism-Leninism is more democratic than western liberal democracy, when they are deeply propagandized to think that only the western democracy is democratic and just and say that rich people are needed to make the economy work etc (all the usual talking points). I am not very good at this, when I say our democracy is not democratic they said I sound insane

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[–] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Those who control the commanding heights of industry have a powerful hold on the foundations of society, and this has cascading impacts on the rest of society. The state is also not outside and above the realm of production and distribution, but thoroughly enmeshed within it, and therefore must be the representative of the ruling class. Socialism allows the working people to determine the direction society heads in, and direct the social surplus as they see fit, rather than be appropriated by private parties.

That's extremely simplified, perhaps overly so, but this is generally where I start.