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I think you missed the concept of what I was saying. I am talking about what people think of when someone mentions that someone should come over here and join Lemmy. Posts like https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/16hkxua/why_im_giving_up_on_lemmyfediverse/. Since so few people seem curious enough to research things on their own, and before I get accused of making stuff up again, I'll just copy the whole thing in its entirety:
This was from 2-3 years ago now. The content has gotten better, and the UX too, but the in-fighting has gotten worse (see calls on \0 governance community to defederate from Lemmy.world). You legitimately might have missed a lot of this - many of the BS posts end up getting deleted - but it is here, and when \0 defederates from LW it is going to affect us all, especially if they defederate from all PieFed instances too, and every other instance that they have accused of Zionist moderation practices.
And even (much newer) posts that are aimed at being strongly positive towards us, such as https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1ixf1gb/lemmy_may_seem_small_but_its_the_most_viable/, get heavy pushback in the comment sections. e.g. calling us "Reddit but decentralized", and "Lemmy is dreadful. Sorry but it’s true.", and wow this one hurts:
I'm not talking about whether we deserve to be liked, I'm saying that those of who want to be here already are, whereas among Redditors in particular we have a certain... "reputation", and it is not a good one. Some of those people might be happier with Nostr or Voat or Truth Social, and we definitely hope that those people go there rather than here, but the centrists...? Yeah they don't like us here. They say so and everything. Anyone can read these messages. I've seen the same on Bluesky too, when I've gone looking.
I'm not suggesting that we make any changes necessarily, just saying that an honest diagnosis of the situation is helpful if we ever did want to make this place more welcoming. Which we do not, it would seem, but if we ever did... then we need to realize that for primarily American centrists (who are the majority audience of people on Reddit?), they don't want to come to a 4chan version of Reddit. They are on Reddit for a reason - it meets their needs, no matter how enshittified it also gets alongside that. Spez was (at least partially) right - he did in fact get away with calling us all landed gentry. The company remains profitable at least.
Oh no, I hear you loud and clear.
I'm directly refuting the notion that any post, positive or negative, is a meaningful cross section of opinion on any platform.
I'm also directly refuting the idea that it's even reasonable to expect a positive view of any platform from any other. If people really like a platform (or at the very least prefer it), they'll move to the platform. If they don't, they won't. If I preferred Pepsi, I'd be drinking it by now.
I do genuinely appreciate your view, and methodical approach. It reminds me of the relationship, though, between historians and archeologists. There is reality as it is written, and there is a reality that is. Incredibly valuable to read the accounts. Entirely appropriate to consider the context in which they exist.
I showed you direct evidence of many people stating exactly this. It now sounds like you agree with me, but have nothing to point to as to why besides the notion that reality isn't real. Believe it or not, I know what you mean and tend to agree, though nonetheless... (the reason being that those who enjoy leftist in-fighting are here, while those who do not are elsewhere - although in this case that isn't a contaminating bias but rather the whole point underlying what we are talking about!)
I was arguing against naive optimism, not wanting to swing over to naive pessimism but rather realism, to open our eyes and see what is truly there. You seem to be arguing for a different method of finding truthiness, which however valid I would definitely find it difficult to discuss in the terms that I am most familiar with.
In any case, people definitely aren't joining here, whatever their underlying reasoning. In fact our numbers are going down, not up. As is also true of Reddit, and most social media, which is probably the healthier alternative, though it would still be nice for it to exist to look at occasionally, especially for such things as hobby enthusiast forums that are much harder to bring people together irl.