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How true do you think this is? (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone)

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[–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In no way did this statement suggest all men were mistreating women. You read that into it yourself.

This could easily be applied to anyone for any subject without being problematic.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I did not say that it did, I said that it made generalizations about men

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a generalization to say a group treats another group as well as they deserve, since "as good as they deserve" can mean anything.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The generalization here is that all men have an idea of what all women deserve, as if all men judge women based on their gender

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

That's an interpretation I didn't see at all, and I don't believe is supported by the wording of the statement. Being aware of a group and deciding how that group ought to be treated does not mean they will be treated differently for being members of that group.

I still think you're applying a bias here, and the statement is designed to expose those biases because it really isn't saying anything at all. Aside from the not changing part, which as I said I disagree with.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

"There is not a single men on earth that thinks he mistreats women"

implies that no men can recognize his own wrong doings towards women (yes, you can mistreat someone and be aware of the fact that it was wrong)
assigning this negative attribute (lack of awareness) to a gender group

"Every man dishes out exactly what he thinks women deserve"

implies that all men have an internal view that they apply to all women