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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wake up babe new genre definition just dropped

https://stoates.substack.com/p/programmer-science-fiction

Includes all the usual suspects, but notably doesn't mention Ken MacLeod whose Fall Revolution series is probably too socialist[1]. Also avoids discussing Stross post-Singularity Sky.


[1] MacLeod's Corporation Wars trilogy has immersive VR, artificial conciousness rebelling against authority, and literal p-zombies but is also very anti-fascist, so no wonder it's not mentioned (also, it's unfortunately not very good)

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 points 30 minutes ago

So there are a bunch of people on this forum more literary and authorial than I and I welcome any of them to correct me on this, but I'm skeptical of the whole project here of seeking to identify or define a new subgenre that is pushing speculative fiction as a whole forward. It's always seemed to me like the real creative energy behind this kind of movement doesn't originate from a defined subgenre as much as from a community of authors in conversation with each other. The identification and labeling comes afterwards as outsiders try to talk about it. In that sense, I don't think he's actually identifying that kind of community. Just naming a bunch of writers he likes, to the point of excluding several who he admits would be in this kind of community as defined but he just doesn't like as much.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

Viral: "read a second book"

Spiral: "read a second Borges story"

The author of "Death and the Compass" and "Emma Zunz" is unrecognizable from the description there.

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 5 points 1 day ago

@gerikson @techtakes Technical nit-pick: "American hard science fiction space opera like Timelike Infinity is also influential"— Timelike Infinity was written by Steven Baxter who is *very* English indeed. Best contextualized as mid-period Interzone generation hitting its imperial phase.