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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They're definitely America's mistakes, but they're also their mistakes, the mistake being allowing US bases on their territory to be used in this war. Doubly so for Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, who actually encouraged Trump to do this.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

also their mistakes, the mistake being allowing US bases on their territory to be used

Oh, so diplomacy and hosting an ally's forces in the name of friendship is a mistake? Not to mention most of those bases were there long before Tromp was president. And, the UK and Germany and plenty of other nations also play host to US bases. Are we mistaken too?

Doubly so for Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, who actually encouraged Trump to do this.

Did they fuck. Think you need to brush up on actual facts on who encouraged what. Not that mein fuhrer needed encouragement.

And in any case, if that clown had never been elected we'd never be discussing this. And Obamas deal - which did a lot of good I might add - would still be in place.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 15 hours ago

Oh, so diplomacy and hosting an ally's forces in the name of friendship is a mistake?

When those forces are clearly going to be used to further the ally's imperialism it's an immoral act (imperialism doesn't become better when it's "in the name of friendship"), but also that's not what I said. I said letting Trump use the bases for his war against Iran was a mistake, since it brought Iran's anger on them. They could've refused like Spain and Italy did.

Did they fuck. Think you need to brush up on actual facts on who encouraged what. Not that mein fuhrer needed encouragement.

Source 1, source 2.

And Obamas deal - which did a lot of good I might add - would still be in place.

Sure? What makes you think I disagree with that?