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How hard is it to implement email verification?

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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 211 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

How hard is it to implement email verification?

Harder, actually.

That's the point of OAuth, which is what you're seeing there.

The idea is that you're you and you have a... google account. This shitty little website doesn't want to be responsible for you login details, because those can get stolen. Maybe they contain an email address, which is a problem. Software needs to be updated, it's all a big. They don't want to touch anything in terms of security that identifies you as you.

Maybe all the website does is save your favorite pepe memes. They don't need anything else from you, but they still need to have something to get a user id and make sure nobody messes with your pepe meme collection. That's where this system comes in, because the rest of website becomes significantly easier. They don't need to store anything personally identifying, all they get is an ID and they can connect it with your pepes.

The only downside to OAuth is, as you can also see, that it's corpos you don't want to trust that are offering it.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 37 minutes ago

But most oauth implementations use the user email as identifier so they get the email anyway

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, some of the same reason everyone uses stripe or PayPal for payment systems. If the site itself handles the cc info it holds all the liability, and has to pass rigorous POC testing and compliance.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

Was just about to say getting Auth right is super hard. Getting someone else to do it for you is a godsend.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but where is the link to this Pepe memes page?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Yeah show us deh memes

[–] lenocolomo@lemmy.ml 27 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

While I get that, it is still unfortunate that no open-source, trusted variant can be part of the usual ways.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago

There's really no reason something like that couldn't exist. A foundation would just have to decide to dedicate the resources to it.

The issue is it would have to gain significant adoption in order for web admins to think to include it. This list here is actually a lot larger than you usually see. It's often just the big 2 or 3.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 hours ago

They can? They are in some cases!

Just usually indie stuff. There's Login With Mastodon on plenty of websites.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even something like bitwarden would be nice

[–] lenocolomo@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago
[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have no account with the above. I wouldn't make one for being able to use another service.

No idea what the product is here, but I guess I'm not their target audience. Which is fine.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago

Just have a spam account?

spamspamspamspam2026@gmail.com for e.g.