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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 57 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

No one should tip anyone. Tipping supports wage theft. If no one tipped, business models that depend on tipping would find no one to hire, so they'd be forced out of business, or need to start paying something closer to a living wage. Yes, this would happen on the backs of those currently working such jobs, but if nothing ever changes, then nothing ever changes.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 6 hours ago

You think that, but then they always have a revolving door of people in a bad enough position, young and kicked out by their family, newly divorced, any number of reasons they're desperate enough to seek a quick hire and fast cash. Most have a criminal record hindering better employment, the restaurants don't drug test but even grocery stores do, if you smoke weed in an illegal state fuck yourself, if you have a real drug problem in any state fuck yourself again.

And call me when you find a way to bring everyone in this country together on ANY issue. Good fucking luck lmao.

The only way to actually change it would require all those customers to actually make a sacrifice themselves and stop going to the restaurant at all. This would still fuck the workers, but it would be the only thing that also affects the owners. Of course most people refuse to learn how to make their own burgers and chickey strips, so that'll never happen either..

But at least I'm not deluding myself into thinking I'm hurting the workers for their own good. Why don't you just bend the server over your knee and spank her for being a bad girl? I'm sure (just like not tipping) it hurts you more than it hurts them, poor baby, you shouldn't have to discipline your servers like that, when will they learn??

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I owned a small resto/bar in Spain. My employee's minimum wage was dictated by a sectorial collective bargaining agreement. I had to pay them at least that amount, altough I could pay more for especially good/experienced workers. The base salary was almost 3 times minimum wage. On top of that I paid almost 50% of their salary to the social security system, which covers retirement and health system contributions ( the country has full universal care). Tips are customary, but in the 5 to 10% range, but never required. No server would dream of making an issue for not getting a tip. tips are a thank you, not an obligation.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 53 minutes ago

Yes, I did, I was just rolling out delivery, and weather Covid quite well, but I realized I wasn't cut out for that type of business. I was fun for a while, made good money, but it became a rut. I'm a serial entrepreneur (ADHD), so I keep jumping.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

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[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RichardNixos@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)