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[–] Jason@feddit.uk 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, rather than a spanking, maybe you could just make a law to make employers pay a livable wage?

If they can't because they would go out of business, then they should go out of business.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We agree.

But as it stands, the servers do rely on tips.

And the only person you're hurting by not tipping in the current system is that specific server.

No you're not "helping them actually" by hurting them. That is what abusers say. You are siding with the exploitative business and telling them "it's ok that you operate this way."

Either boycott all tip reliant businesses, or tip while you're already crossing the proverbial picket line. It's that easy.

[–] Jason@feddit.uk 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The "abuser" in this situation is the employer that doesn't pay enough so that their employees can pay rent and then shrugging it off as if there is nothing that can be done. As if there is a law stopping them from paying a fair wage.

They know that the server will stay on a less than livable wage because otherwise they'll fire them and find someone else who is desperate. This is predatory behaviour.

By not tipping I am not "siding with the exploitative business". Continuing to perpetuate this "culture of tipping" is, however.

I DO already boycott all businesses that make servers rely on tips for a livable wage. I do also tip servers for good service, but it is in addition to their wage, not to make up what the employer refuses to pay.

It really is that easy.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago

And the one who supports the employer that doesn't pay their workers fairly: The customer. It's both of you especially if you're "hitting the server for their own good" by not tipping and pretending that makes you a good person.

I DO already boycott all businesses that make servers rely on tips for a livable wage. I do also tip servers for good service, but it is in addition to their wage, not to make up what the employer refuses to pay.

Good, that's what I'm saying.

It really is that easy.

Hey, that's my line!