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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

As a german, this is probably not racism related, though we got that too. However this just screams basic german bureaucracy to me:

Cant have people unable to understand lifeguard instructions in the water for various legal, liability, insurance reasons else the organization responsible for public safety there is in not lake, but hot water.

Someone somewhere involved in the chain of responsibility there is probably unsure or uncomfortable with the uncertain liabilities so they bring out this brilliant solution.

[–] Meruten@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you can't read German, what use is that sign? If you can read German, what use is that sign?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Hence the emphasis on brilliance 👀

[–] lath@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

In bureaucracy you don't need logic as long as you have enough forms, in triplicate.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

As a fellow German, this screams "there is a problem, here is the wrong solution" to me, too. Frequently, the wrong solution magically appears when there is a bias to enforce, so I do lean more on the racism theory.

[–] Hotznplotzn 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I agree as here it also seems to be bureaucracy and a lack of funding.

The trigger for introducing the rule was an incident the previous weekend. Nobel - himself a qualified lifeguard - had to rescue a toddler from water that was far too deep. "Our lake is up to 13 metres deep in places. That is simply dangerous," [Mathias Nobel, manager of the Heidebad lake swimming area] said. What is feasible and what is not?

Nobel said children in particular needed to understand how to behave around water and had to be supervised by people who also knew how to act. Lifeguards also needed to be able to communicate with visitors directly. If a group arrived without a single person with sufficient German, he and his team had serious concerns, he said.

Maybe they need more personnel.

[–] lath@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So what? They put an ad out "hiring lifeguards, only polyglots allowed"?

How many ppl do they need to hire for every language out there coming by through tourism?

[–] AnchoriteMagus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No language or speaking required.

[–] lath@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Have you ever worked in retail?

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Differences in language are tied very closely with differences in race. Excluding people based on the language they [don't] speak is simply racism.

Safety is not a concern here. What language you speak has nothing to do with whether you know how to not drown. I'm quite certain that there are plenty of German speakers who blissfully fail to read or otherwise ignore that sign. Finally, the article seems to make it clear that the swimming area is understaffed for the number of bathers visiting. That's a staffing issue.