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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Fwiw, the CDC and USDA sites still have the correct info in full rather than the half assed bullshit spouted on Facebook

https://www.cdc.gov/botulism/prevention/home-canned-foods.html

The USDA link is on that page

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Last I checked, the USDA also still says that any pork not cooked to 165 is unsafe, which hasn't been true for decades.

I'm not arguing in favor of disregarding canning safety, but the USDA can be slow to come up to speed.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

On canning, they're backed by over a century of practical information. Canning is essentially the practice of controlling decay. There's not much wiggle room involved when it comes to the pathogenic side of that. The temps at which they die off, or where various toxins are neutralized, have been reproduced so often and so reliably that it's not really in question.

Pork safety comes down to pretty much one pathogen in terms of finished safe temp and time. There's a curve to it. But the USDA (so far) tends to be very sith and deal in absolutes. At 165, with nothing else involved, you know you aren't going to get sick. There's other temps that can get the job done at different times, but we gotta be real about how dumb people are. You start displaying that chart, and the average person will start thinking they can piddle with it.

Plus, going to a lower temp with a rest, or at longer times, you run into more variables in the first place; more room for error to creep in. There's no way I'd recommend that process to someone new to cooking pork, so I can't be upset that the organization that's supposed to be the default source for food safety stays with the most certain path.

Hell, I wouldn't be upset if the USDA only listed canning guidelines that were similarly limited to no brainer numbers. Nuance is for experienced cooks.

[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean still pressure can your food but this does say kind if the same thing:

High temperatures can destroy the toxin that causes botulism. Boil the following foods in a saucepan before eating them.

  • Home-canned tomatoes
  • Foods containing home-canned tomatoes
  • All low-acid home-canned foods
  • All home-fermented Alaska Native foods

At altitudes below 1,000 feet, boil foods for 10 minutes. Add 1 minute for each additional 1,000 feet of elevation.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Yup :)

At the time I dropped the comment, nobody had laid out an external source that can be considered authoritative. While the "currently" caveat in the comment is meant to say that you can only trust things so far, you gotta take extra care when there's any risks involved.

The info in the image from the post wasn't wrong, just untrustworthy :)