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I posted a similar topic early today but worded it wrong that was my mistake. I'm genuinely curious how people have reached to this point and what they hope to achieve after. I understand getting rid of AI/LLM is the obvious one. What do you think we should do to get to that goal or your personal goal.

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[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are still arguing a moot point.

Could and should we, in the western world, be more sustainable? Absolutely yes!

But do you think, that even MORE energy consumption for something as useless and flawed as current AI systems are is in any way justified?

Even if it is just a blip on the radar compared to energy that is used to survive, it is still more load that comes on top of current usage.

How much sense would it make to undertake efforts to reduce the energy that is used to live while at the same time using more energy to power data centers that mostly benefit some guys who bet on the usefullness of AI, even against common sense?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Even if it is just a blip on the radar compared to energy that is used to survive, it is still more load that comes on top of current usage

You aren't allowed to be this upset about AI power usage while at the same time almost completely accepting the individual choices you're making to waste 100s of times more power. There's a term for this, Hypocrite.

The scales you're suggesting are just not even close to each other. We could build 10x more AI datacenters, and we (the population of the world) would still end up saving significantly more energy by eating meat one fewer day per week and eating vegetarian that day instead. I'm not even kidding.

The things we could do by adjusting our diets, choosing more appropriate housing sizes, cohabitating more, walking, biking, public transit. Individually every single one of those dwarfs the amount of energy used by AI by orders of magnitude.

It's the equivalent of yelling at your kid for leaving the LED bulb on in their bedroom all day, when you drove them to school and picked them up and it's only a mile away. One driving trip, one day, uses more energy than that bulb does if left on all year.

[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I am not 'allowed to be upset'? Lol, ok. Sounds like you see youself as some sort of moral police.

Call me a hypocrite if it makes you feel better but you are just skirting my point that the energy usage of AI is something that is unnecessary, just like the glowing LED lightbulb in your empty kitchen.

This makes you come across as either daft, or as someone who argues in bad faith.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Ever heard the saying "Penny Shy and Pound Foolish"

It's literally what you're doing right now.