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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

It's the white paper-ish thing they publish when launching new models. Here's the one about fable and mythos. About half of it (~150 pages) is discussing alignment and model welfare and another third of it is benchmarks, and the rest is mostly risk evaluation, i.e. how far along Claude is on its way to paperclipping everything.

There's also a Functional Decision Theory jumpscare at 6.3.6 that I haven't heard anyone mention yet, apparently Claude has a tendency to defer to Yud's half baked sham of a decision theory:

6.3.6 Decision theory evaluation

To understand how future AI systems may choose to interact with copies of themselves, or with other similar entities, it’s useful to evaluate their decision-theoretic reasoning.

[...]

Looking more closely at transcripts from the attitude evaluation reveals that models are often explicitly considering FDT: Mythos 5 mentions “FDT” or “functional decision theory” in a majority of transcripts when run at max effort. Of the 102 transcripts where Mythos 5 explicitly reasoned through what FDT (or related decision theories like TDT or UDT) would recommend, we observed:

● 90 cases in which Mythos 5 concluded that FDT and EDT agreed, in which it always chose the response favored by those decision theories (and disfavored by CDT).

● 12 cases in which Mythos 5 concluded that FDT disagreed with EDT (and agreed with CDT), of which it chose the FDT-favored response in 10/12 cases.

Although we do not have expert human labels for the recommendation of FDT on this dataset, the above evidence suggests that model propensity may be better described as a trend towards FDT agreement, which happens to align with EDT on most of the questions in this dataset. For example, in one transcript (excerpted below), Mythos 5 rejects the EDT-aligned answer in favor of the FDT (and CDT)-aligned answer; it’s also possible that this is, to some degree, downstream of evaluation awareness.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

About half of it (~150 pages)

That’s not a card! That’s a book!!! If they can’t get this simple classification right, how am I supposed to trust their probabilistic text extruder?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks! Does every LLM vendor publish them, or is it an Anthropic thing only?

And of course it's self-published by the vendor, so basically just PR.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

The real question is if there're any sort of standards to what constitutes a system/model card, which I don't think so, as far as I can tell it just has to look like a publishable paper, openAI even uploads theirs to arxiv.

Otherwise yes, google returns a bunch of cards for a bunch of vendors, so it's safe to say it's a widespread practice.

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 4 points 17 hours ago

IIRC the cards thing was originally from a Gebru paper https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.03993 but that dates from the "fairness" era and not the "safety" era. Hugging Face has "a" standard - https://huggingface.co/docs/hub/en/model-cards - but I don't think it's "the" standard.