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Once per year, every CEO should do the lowest paid job in the company for a week.
Loads of CEOs are well aware of how shit the jobs theyre providing are.
Aware of and doing are two different things.
Yeah, but you cant make a ceo truly experience what a minimum wage job is like, because they wont endure the hopelessness.
Yeah, they will come back to a fully furnished home and plenty of food etc... they will have no idea what it feels like to juggle bill payment and need a vacation but not being able to take one.
I haven't had a true vacation in like 5 years. I'm not counting the trips with my ex to buy weed across state lines, but Michigan was kinda cute to see (and thats sad).
Also, it's hard for them to have a realistic experience because their cow-orkers will know that it's the CEO and if you want to keep your job you won't make the CEO have a miserable time.
That's kinda included in the malaise of a minimum wage job I tried to capture with "hopelessness". I'm sure most of us have been there. You're on the bottom rung.
Right, but there's an additional protection because it's the CEO.
For example, if you're a successful author writing a book on what it's like to work at McDonalds, maybe you'll get a job there. You'll be working with other people who are in a shitty job that they need to keep, but if you get fired, it's more material for your book. So, you avoid the worst of working a minimum wage, entry level job. But, you're not going to get special treatment. You'll have to do the really dirty jobs. If you screw up, the shift manager will chew you out for it.
But, if you're the McDonalds CEO going into that job, it's probably even easier than it is for the author. You get all the protection of not having to worry about your future if you get fired. But, in addition, you might be recognized by some of the other employees or the manager or franchise operator or something. And, because of that, you might get to avoid a truly awful part of the job like cleaning the grease trap in the deep fryer. If you screw up, the shift manager might say "don't worry about it, everyone has problems on their first day" because they don't want to risk pissing off the CEO.
And they should live exclusively of that wage.
Even an average paying job, just to remember what the company really does and what people stand for, other than making money.
From what I’ve seen so far. Making money is what most companies stand for. At least once they reach a certain revenue level.
From where CEOs stand, an average paying job is no different from the lowest paying job
Then why aren't they paid the same?
Let's just get rid of the CEO part, and make the workers own and make decisions
Yeah that'll work. 500 people making joint decisions.
Isn't that already how it happens when the shareholders are involved?
Yes, but then it becomes weighted by how much financial stake you have in the company, rather than the worker's contribution to their success (I'd argue that employees have just as much at stake as most investors, as working for a living is their primary means of earning income, and losing thay income due to a business failing can be just as ruinous). If an individual holds 51% of the public shares, the voting process is performative at best. That person will always have the power to change the board of directors who will then set policy that aligns with whatever their desires are.
Well, by my knowledge they sometimes vote and the amount of votes one has correlates to your share%. A CEO is appointed precisely to make decisions for them.
Assuming every employee has equal voting power I don't see it being particularly effective. But it might, i guess.
i guess for a company something like elections for the ceo might work
Have you heard of democracy? Why is society so allergic to bringing it to the workplace? You damn well should get to vote on positions that are necessarily hierarchical.
The CEO should be appointed/fired either by a board that's voted on by the workers (and recallable), or the workers should get to vote for a CEO directly (who should also be recallable).
Some may call this socialism, which yes, it's a part of it.
I suggest we replace every CEO with a cat and a business buzzword soundboard.
It will result in increased revenue, profit, employee satisfaction, willingness to return to office work, work environment health, employee retention, and most importantly, amount of cats in the office. (After all, a CatEO needs a VPurr and a mewsistant...)
"Where are you going?" "oh I'm just going to pet the CEO and give her treats, brb"
Actually working fine for Mondragon. A federation of worker coops in Spain, it's 70 thousand people or so and seems to have worked for the past 70 years, even outlasting Francoism. Wage ratios (between minimum and the highest wage in the coop) are fixed and must be voted on to be changed, and I believe management positions can be voted out by their subordinates.