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last night, my pixel came! I flashed Graphene and I am now running it smoothly!

I am in the process of downloading apps and I have a question: I am interested in at least using discord on this device. It is absolutely one of my most used apps. On PC, I use legchord. Im a big fan. Is there something similar available for mobile? and I have a similar question for Whatsapp, and FB messenger (although those are less important)?

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[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No one is suggesting social isolation.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

quitting some of these apps in some parts of the world will leave you incommunicable, which doesn't solve the problem.

[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah you're right. Let's just keep using all these apps and building our technological lives on top of these awful corp's infrastructures and platforms. I mean we have to, right? We can't inconvenience ourselves in the short term to find alternative solutions, can we?

It's so frustrating watching the world fall apart when we've tried nothing and are all our of ideas.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

complete isolation and complete submission aren't the only two options.

[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh right... The moderate approach. Yeah that works really well...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Collective action, but that takes people and people, again, don't like giving up their conveniences.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

i wouldn't be giving up any convenience at all if people i talk to were elsewhere.

some of them i can bring over, i'd still need whatsapp for everyone else.

[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

that's basic social interaction for being a functional member of society.

i can't get everyone i ever meet to switch to my app. i need to talk to new people, i need a job and i need to interact with the state.

[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does being purposefully obstinate usually work for you, or are you unaware of your obstinace?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

am i the one being obstinate here?

social isolation won't fix the problem. it's actually bound to make it worse.

[–] linuxjj@mastodon.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@umbrella @bloogoose yes, you are the one being obstinate. I live in INE of those countries you mention where saying "Signal" and "Iron potatoes" sound the same to most of the population, and every business and public institution is basically unreachable unless you're using WhatsApp. I stopped using WhatsApp, those who respect my choice of privacy installed signal, the rest either call me or disappeared from my life. There is no excuse to keep using those platforms, it's that simple.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

don't you work a job? you meet new people by asking them to install an app?

isolation won't fix the problem. it isn't fixing the problem, it's getting worse.

you are absolutely correct for being frustrated about it, but that alone won't change it.