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[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

? The article makes it clear the car was in FSD mode, but he passed out and was pressing the accelerator pedal

[–] astro@leminal.space 0 points 4 hours ago

if he hadn't been in FSD mode and passed out and jammed on the accelerator for 2 minutes, would the crash have been avoided? if not, what is the relevance of it being in FSD before the driver overrode it? Seems like the title framing disingenuously suggests it was a factor in the accident, while the content of the article makes perfectly clear that it was not.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

He also Google searched how to make the fsd more aggressive. All we can do is keep speculating in this thread.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

He also Google searched how to make the fsd more aggressive.

I don't have any experience with FSD specifically, but I used to have a Model 3 with Enhanced Autopilot before I traded in that Nazimobile.

In traffic, Autopilot would definitely leave more space and act "safer" than most other drivers on the road around me. Regularly resulting in people cutting me off, squeezing into spaces they shouldn't be, etc.

Trying to figure out how to make the car act more like the other traffic is something nearly every Tesla driver has looked into at some point.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

FSD has modes you can set. Slow, chill, hurry, and manic, or something like that. You can also tune what each one does, like 5 under limit for chill, five over for manic, etc. Along with all the auto cruise distance etc. settings.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Pressing the accelerator takes you out of FSD mode.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No, pressing the brake does. The accelerator overrides the speed that the software has chosen but only for the duration the accelerator is pressed. FSD is still engaged.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You can’t say FSD is active when you’re literally controlling the accelerator by pressing it to the floor.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

What the fuck?

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think this is true, resources suggest you only override the speed of the FSD

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This is true, friend has one. Just like regular cruise control, you can goose it and it returns to self driving. Not for long though I think, then it shuts off.

The other thing not mentioned are the interior cameras, Teslas have interior cameras too so they have him recorded doing whatever he was doing.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I want to believe you, because that's the sensible way of handling user input. But here's a forbes article about another incident:

There are four ways to disengage FSD – pressing the accelerator is not one:

  • Press the brake pedal.
  • If equipped, move the gear stalk upward.
  • If equipped, press the right scroll wheel on the steering wheel.
  • Take over (grab and jerk) the steering wheel and steer manually.
[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

That Forbes article is also wrong. Pressing the right scroll wheel activates voice command input and does nothing to FSD.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's what I said? The accelerator does not disable self drive, and it's not in the list.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh then I misinterpreted this line to mean the opposite, my bad!

Not for long though I think, then it shuts off.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh yeah that was unclear. I meant i think it doesn't let you just keep accelerating in FSD without shutting off FSD. But I actually don't know. I'll ask the owner I know.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It’s not full self driving if you’re pressing the accelerator to the floor.

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not full self driving to begin with. Never was.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It is, you just have to supervise it.

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Then that’s not full self driving. If you can’t fall asleep in the back seat, it’s not full self driving.

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's your opinion, not a truth

[–] astro@leminal.space -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

well advance the counterpoint, then. here, i'll get you started, "the car is still in full control when the driver overrides the speed of the vehicle. speed control is not a factor in driving"

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

What are you even arguing, FSD is a programmed feature in their cars and according to the black box of the car it was turned on at the time of the accident. Period. Read the article.

What your* opinion on what actually constitutes full self driving is completely irrelevant here.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 0 points 14 hours ago

? The article makes it clear the car was in FSD mode, but he [(alledgedly) passed out and] was pressing the accelerator pedal