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A Boring Dystopia

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[โ€“] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

really only had the Haudenosaunee

What's wrong with that? Wouldn't the world be better if more had been copied?

[โ€“] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh absolutely, but the problem is it led to a lot of the early American debates being of how to balance their influence vs the European influence. These were white people of recent European descent who (mostly, there were some) weren't interested in joining the Five Nations or any other Iriqouian confederation.

When you only have one good role model you find yourself winging a lot and taking more than you should have from the less good influences you've got. Hell, confederation was something that had worked for the Haudenosaunee, but very much collapsed immediately for the United States because we lacked a lot of their cultural technologies and we had a lot of our own cultural and political stuff that got in the way and made federalism work better for us at that time.