this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2026
458 points (97.3% liked)

Greentext

8443 readers
1136 users here now

This is a place to share greentexts and witness the confounding life of Anon. If you're new to the Greentext community, think of it as a sort of zoo with Anon as the main attraction.

Be warned:

If you find yourself getting angry (or god forbid, agreeing) with something Anon has said, you might be doing it wrong.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

Can only be safely used in good weather.
Collisions will, in fact, fuck you up bad.
Limited cargo space.
Single occupancy.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
  1. Try a rain poncho
  2. Two bikes colliding may fuck one up, but death is VERY unlikely
  3. Electric cargo bike
  4. Electric cargo bike

Most arguments against bikes are from people who never even tried to address the issues. It's like "I've seen a BMX and that's ALL there is!"

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

Most bike fatalities are car related, though bike on bike deaths do exist.

I was not thinking about discomfort due to rain (wearing glasses does suck in the rain) but slippery conditions. I have taken a bad spill off my bike twice and both times were because of rain.

I guess I don't count e-bikes as bikes. That is a bad mind set on my part.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Riding a bike in the rain sucks floppy donkey dong. Poncho or not. I've done both. A lot. Car any day over it.

While I get there are plenty of reasons to ride a bike and many arguments against it are overblown, pretending that a bike always has a solution or that that solution is always preferred is as bad as the inverse argument.

I'm not entirely sure that's what you are actually suggesting(rather I think you're just positing potential solutions), it just leans that way.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Riding bike in the rain turned out to be one of my favorite things when I figured out how to not suck at it. Ponchos are no good. Waterproof coats and pants make all the difference.

If anything is a challenge, it's high winds and places with harsh winters. What we really need is more economical enclosed vehicles that bridge the gap between bikes and cars.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

Any waterproof thing I wore, also trapped heat underneath and I'd be so sweaty by the time I arrived anywhere that there was little point to me wearing the waterproof garment in the first place.

High winds and snow/ice are really troublesome, but I always appreciated cold (even bitter cold) weather since I'd sweat less.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

There's weeks where rain a couple of days, but then months were there's no rain at all. I would take my bike everytime because I prefer to use the rain clothes 4 hours of a year that spend an entire week of the year stuck in traffic.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Scandinavia and the Netherlands disagree on all but one of those points

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Not disability friendly.

Limited Range.

Makes you all sweaty before arriving at your destination.

Hills.

Infrastructure not set up to store them anywhere.

Easily and frequently stolen.

Not in fact super cheap, for a decent one.

Requires new infrastructure because everything is built around cars and is literally not safe to use around cars.

[–] teuniac_@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

They're exceptionally disability friendly and many age specifically adapted for people with disabilities. E-tricycles are used a lot for this purpose. You see them a lot in some countries.

E-bikes address the sweatiness and hills issue. But even without electric assistance, people in Germany and Austria have managed.

It doesn't always require new infrastructure to be built. Ideally infrastructure for cars is repurposed for walking and cycling. This is something that needs to be done anyway because lots of people don't drive, causing transport poverty.

My bike was $270 second hand and is awesome.

The range issue is fair. Consequence of designing exclusively for cars. Then again, no need to cycle every journey. Just the short journeys already helps a lot. Where I live most car journeys are under 5 miles.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

For range, there is public transit, and it's a good option overall for when bike rides are not feasible!

[–] teuniac_@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Sadly it's more theoretical than an actual option in many places.

Where I live (UK, not London) short distances can be done by bike or public transport. Although public transport isn't great. For medium distance, public transport is often non-existent. For long distance, public transport works well and you might be able to take your bike on the train too.

I'd rather cycle through the rain than pay an extortionate amount for a bus ticket.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

Roads would be great infrastructure for bikes if we just banned cars from them. :)

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Can only be safely used in good weather.

Just like cars?

Collisions will, in fact, fuck you up bad.

As bad as cars?

Limited cargo space.

Not as limited as you think.

Single occupancy.

Not necessarily.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Just like cars?

No, cars can easily be used in much worse weather than bikes.

As bad as cars?

Worse. It may sound surprising, but in a traffic accident being inside a car protects you more than just having a helmet.

Not as limited as you think.

I wonder if that thing is even legal to drive.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You sound like somebody who hasn't touched a bike since childhood, if ever.

No, cars can easily be used in much worse weather than bikes.

But should you? Driving even just in rain makes your car significantly more dangerous, especially if you're dumb enough to drive at high speeds. Besides, I've biked in some pretty extreme weather, including a blizzard that constantly blasted ice at me so much I had to keep my hand in front of my face the whole time. Was I in danger? Probably, but there's still not actually that much difference between weather that bicyclists should avoid, and weather that motorists should avoid.

The biggest difference being how much danger the latter poses to others in addition to the driver.

Worse. It may sound surprising, but in a traffic accident being inside a car protects you more than just having a helmet.

You're so well protected in your little bubble... unless your little shelter is smaller than the monstrous trucks that are on the roads now days. Now you're pretty much in the same boat as the bicyclist, there's always a bigger fish. So I guess by your logic we should actually all be driving the largest trucks possible.

And that touches on the crux of the problem. Your overly sheltered lifestyle disconnects you from realities right in front of your face. See in these crash scenarios the bicyclist is likely thinking as much about the safety of who they might be crashing into, as well as their own safety. Usually, yeah yeah assholes are everywhere, but the fact is the bicyclist is significantly less of a danger to both themselves and others.

Motorists are as dissonant as meat eaters. Any leap of logic to avoid confronting that you are part of the fucking problem.

I wonder if that thing is even legal to drive.

The pic I just posted is of a model that likely doesn't even have a motor in it. Of course it's legal to drive. Don't even need a license.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Motorists

I don't have a car or motor, I don't even have a driver's license, I go around largely by public transport. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a part of the same secret cult out to get you, I certainly don't think cars should be preferred by default to bikes or to mass public transport, I simply found your specific arguments to be wrong or questionable. You of course went all out fantasising who I am and what's my motivation...

I'd much prefer to be hit by a truck while I'm in a car than while I'm on a bike, thank you very much. Overall I think there's so much fewer trucks on the roads than cars that cars are, in absolute numbers, more dangerous for bikers and pedestrians than cars. Maybe statistics would prove me wrong here, idk. (Note: I live in Europe, the cars usually used here and the overall traffic infrastructure are different than in the US.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/bicycletouring/comments/xe1m1e/legal_issues_with_bicycle_trailer/ - are these people crazy or dumb for discussing the legal limits for bike trailers and the potential problems with their weight and width?