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[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The amended EP position adopts a positive, yet rather cosmetic amendment proposed by the liberal RENEW group that would “exclude communications to which end-to-end encryption is, has been, or will be applied” from the scope of the law.

This isnt cosmetic, this is genius! It satisfies lawmakers who want to make this pass to "save the children" and have no idea of the consequences, and it satisfies the lawmakers with braincells since makes the law inapplicable to secure communications.

I hope this does pass so they finally stop trying to push it through. But since they did pass the voluntary one but are still trying to pass the non-voluntary one, I think they will just try to spam chat control laws until their dystopic aim is achieved.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

They still get to eavesdrop on your e-mails.

You know, the digital version of mail.

Guess who used to open and read people's mail ... oh, yeah, the political police of every fucking dictatorship in Europe (both Fascist and Communist) during the XX century.

This is the shit these people in supposedly Democratic nations have enacted.

If you're a citizen in an EU member state, I suggest you have a look at who are the MEPs in you country who voted for this shit. In mine - Portugal - which had a Fascist dictatorship complete with mail opening secret police, this was passed entirely with the votes of the mainstream parties and even the far-right voted against it.

[–] Enekk@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I agree they should have barriers on getting access to your email, but, and I'm sure you know this on some level, the way email works and can bounce around across multiple servers before landing in your provider's systems, all in plain text, means you should never rely on email for privacy unless you are encrypting it. I just run on the assumption that copies of all of my emails exist somewhere.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I do know how the SMTP protocol works.

Just because the envelope is not sealed doesn't mean that the state should be allowed to get a photocopy of what's inside to be perused by some apparatchik if they feel like it WITH NOT EVEN A SUSPICION OF A CRIME MUCH LESS JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT

Is this shit Democracy or is Autocracy with a bit of Theater of Democracy on top?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. It might be preferable to draw a line between social media and chat applications.

That way the people who are scared can teach their children to talk on services that are scanned, while people that care for their privacy can opt for private communication.

If it's about pedophiles sharing stuff with each other, they'll never be able to stop that.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago

If it's about pedophiles sharing stuff with each other, they'll never be able to stop that.

I mean they can’t stop it entirely, but the could do some things… Like invest in mental healthcare to understand and combat such social problems, but just passing laws is so much easier.