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[โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

In my view there is nothing so inherently great about Britain

There is, we've got a great welfare system and healthcare system, lack of corruption, good opportunities and high levels of tolerance. We are a great country.

These are clearly desperate people... it is worth paying tens of thousands of pounds to get into it on a death dinghy.

This is just outright illogical and doesn't make a lick of sense. There in some cases is less risk and definitely more reward to taking a dinghy than there is to speeding, drunk driving, driving without a seatbelt, cycling without a helmet, etc. People do that all of the time. Whenever someone causes an accident by speeding, do we apply the same logic? "Your honour, he was clearly desperate. Nobody would risk their life like that for no reason". Of course not. I'm not singling out countries for any reason, but in India it's normal for people to just sit on top of trains. I've seen videos in other countries where if the bus is full, people just hang off. People scale buildings. Even here in the UK people put their lives at great risk building bonfires every year by scaling them without any safety equipment. People definitely do risky things all of the time, often for fun or to save minutes of time.

The dinghies are coming from france. It's a safe country. There's no way this is done out of desperation at all. Any desperation that is there isn't enough to warrant breaking the law.

There are no 'good' and 'bad' people, no 'good' and 'bad' immigrants. You've bought into a lie; the world is never that simple.

I think you've bought into a lie that people don't do stupid or risky things for no good reason. Simply not true.

[โ€“] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 1 points 16 minutes ago

Lack of corruption! Have you been living under a rock?

Okay, how about this. You and your mates are on holiday in Australia. You see on the news that zomg! Britain has been taken over by the Shakiras! It's now under Shakira law!!!

You try to get a flight home, but the flight terminates in France. The shakiras threaten to kill or imprison anyone who tries to get into Britain.

Your mate Barry pulls you aside and tells you a bunch of them are going to get on a dinghy tonight to Ireland. Ireland has already said no more refugees, but he knows a way to smuggle you in. You've got some cousins there, you can stay with them and maybe find a job.

You've got the choice. Stay in France where you don't know anyone and can't speak the language.

Or take a risk and get the dinghy to Ireland where you can speak the language and have family and have a greater chance at getting a job.

Would you stay in France because it's "safe" and condemn any Brits trying to make it to their family in Ireland? Would you rat out your mate Barry because he must be a bad person for wanting to live somewhere he can adjust to more easily? For wanting to have family or friends to support him?