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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Try to find honour again. It’s still possible.

As a Canadian, I will never forgive America or the American people for what they have voted for and continue to support. The entire world is worse off the past few years mostly because of you uneducated morons.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, Canada is also a genocidal settler-colony and an active imperialist power.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Point to me the last time Canada waged several illegal wars in the last two years.

I'll wait.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Imperialism is not when a state "wages illegal wars" (though this is a method of entrenching it or extending it), imperialism is a process of wealth and resource extraction from the global south. Canada participates in this international system, headed by the US Empire, as a willing recipient of the spoils. Further, Canada is a member of NATO, which is a military coalition of imperialist countries designed to prevent backlash from the global south.

I assume you at least agree with the understanding that Canada is a genocidal settler-colony, and therefore should be abolished as a state alongside the US Empire, Israel, etc. Decolonization is important for any genuine step forward, and that begins with recognizing indigenous sovereignty.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Who said anything about abolishing America? You've managed to make up something in your head then argue with me.

I just said me and millions of other Canadians will never trust America again. And you tried your best to turn that into something wildly different.

Go back to Reddit if you want to argue shit your made up yourself.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I said:

To be fair, Canada is also a genocidal settler-colony and an active imperialist power.

I directly compared Canada to the US Empire, as a lesser imperial power and a similarly genocidal settler-colony. I think the fact that Canadians distrust the US Empire is a bit hypocritical, a progressive movement within Canada should also oppose the Canadian state.

I wasn't really trying to "twist" what you were saying, more give you an alternate perspective. For all of the reasons you hate the US, you should also hate Canada. Both are bad, Canada just is lower on the imperial ladder.

Not going back to Reddit, haven't been there for years. Lemmy was made by communists, so there are a lot of us here.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I directly compared Canada to the US Empire, as a lesser imperial power and a similarly genocidal settler-colony.

Why? What does that have to do with anything I said earlier in my comments? Are you even replying to the right person? I said as a Canadian I will never trust America again, replying to someone saying

Clean up your house. Try to find honour again. It’s still possible.

And I believe that it isn't possible for America to find that honour again. Somehow that triggered you to go off into some tangent about imperial colonialism, NATO, and South Africa, as if any of that has to do with how much damage the USA has done Internationally since Trump took over, and how many other Americans they have hurt.

Get a life bud. Go find someone else to invent arguments with, I won't be replying to you again.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

I never mentioned South Africa, but either way I was simply extending the argument against the US to Canada itself. I don't think that's an unreasonable extension.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ouch! Why would you comment at all if you think I'm an uneducated moron? Such a war-like stance. Like the americans?

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Unless you're American, I'm not talking to you. I was just commenting on the whole "they'll be back and respected" thing.

I was replying that me, and many like me, will never again have respect for America. As a nation they are dead to us. A century of good will and allyship was pissed down the drain in two years and Americans celebrated it.

Fuck that and fuck them.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So you're going to ignore all the people who actively are fighting against it and victims of it, and lump everyone into a monolith because that's what you've been told.

I guess it is simpler to throw out nuance and just kinda be a bigot, but it's not really in line with reality.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 13 hours ago

Mild critique, there is no "American nation," there are settler-colonists that do not form a nation, colonized indigenous groups, and semi-colonies of formerly enslaved peoples.