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[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 34 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yup!

Motherboard, CPU, GPU models and serial numbers. Ram size and speed. Those were used during Windows activation as old as windows 95. But likely yes, a full list of every component connected.

Your Android phone collects every WiFi network it has ever seen and sends it to Google, so we should assume Microsoft does the same (Android can locate you without GPS by using your neighbors' WiFi signals as position identifiers, and can triangulate you to a few feet using the relative networks' signal strengths)

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (3 children)
[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Cannot wait for the Motorola/GrapheneOS collab phones.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

And if you dont have Pixel, try /e/os, SailfishOS, Mobian, PostmarketOS or anything other than vendor Android.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Um... You're aware that your pixel was known to google before you graphened it?

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Never knew a google account, so it was known to Google but not to me. .. but while on the topic, know of a better option?

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

so it was known to Google but not to me

Right, but you can assume google knows the imei and other hardware details, so they can probably link you to your identity on other platforms.

There is also the baseband issue. It is currently assumed that manufacturers could have access to snoop your LTE/5g and WiFi traffic, because the software running most phone baseband units is closed and not audited.

So you are probably private, but if you really want a phone with no Big Brother, you should get one from Pine64 or Jolla.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'd love to. I bought an early pinephone and after about a day of trying to make it do basic functions I gave up. I'd LOVE to have a real Linux option but in my experiences so far we're not there yet. I don't see a better option than Graphene at the moment- it's that solid.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Yes, I agree. We might not have rock-solid solutions, but less google is better.

I keep a oneplus 6t just to test Linux phone options.

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works -4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Android phone collects every WiFi network it has ever seen and sends it to Google

Possibly, but how often do you use WiFi on a phone?

[–] AppleMango@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Possibly, but how often do you use WiFi on a phone?

Basically whenever I'm at home or a relative's house?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 minutes ago

But why? Mobile networks are very fast nowadays. And how many homes still have routers?

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Please note: I didn't say you had to connect to these networks. This happens as a background process unless you do a ritual to shut off location services and actively work to keep it off. Most people do not know/care to do this. And even if it's off in settings, some apps have the permission to temporarily override this (and will ask you once to grant it such permission and then have that permission for the lifetime of the app). And regardless of which app overrides said setting, Google gets a copy of whatever the background scan finds (for all Android phones that have the Play store installed, which is most of them).

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

Am I the only person who switches off the WiFi after use? I thought that was common advice to save battery.