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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

How do we feel about flock or similar camera networks around the world? Like yeah a dude with cameras on his face is one issue and then there's the systemic distribution of millions of cameras which is arguably worse but feels more normal to many.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the glasses are worse since they will film you up close, anywhere, and end up on social media to laugh at or to jerk off to.

This is a product that should not be allowed to be distributed to the public. But we live in an age where decency and respect for others is low.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

Yeah it's a more jarring and immediate concern than the amorphous state level data collection and profiling concern of distributed systems although both boil down to privacy concerns. Like its one thing to have a dash cam in your car or a household security camera or even for a business to have internal and external security cameras it's another thing all together for the state to have a distributed camera network accurately tracking everything you're doing or for an Individual to be illegally recording in private locations to make compromising content.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's a whole different issue. I cannot choose to install flock cameras in my city, but I can choose to buy and wear meta glasses or not.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

Yes and no. Like towns have town halls where such issues are voted on or debated. There are most definitely actions individuals and more importantly communities can take to stop the spread of distributed surveillance. There are already laws about filming in private locations aka it's currently illegal for someone to be filming in a public restroom or in your house or in a business they don't own.

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Does it? Most people I know on all sides of the political spectrum absolutely dispose the mass surveillance and have openly done so since cameras at traffic lights became a widespread thing.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Did you mean “despise”? …though in hindsight, “dispose” would probably be better

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

I did haha. I'd been up for way too long when I wrote that.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Those are used for good and by proper authorities. We need to sacrifice a little abit of liberty for getting a lot more security.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

They are not used for good. Pretty sure it’s been proven a lot of individuals that have access to the footage disproportionately search through the database, likely not for law enforcement reasons.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

I mean we can install data sensing butt plugs into every last citizen and get even more data and even more security.