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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

It also cannot consent, and I am big into consent, though

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 7 hours ago

I don't think objects without a subjective experience need to give or are capable of giving consent. I don't think anyone needs to ask their fleshlight for consent, e.g.

If it were a living deer, then it would need to give consent but be unable to. (I think it's reasonable to say any supposed communications from the deer is less trustworthy than "Facilitated Communication", and not sufficient consent.)

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like we care about consent when it comes to the animals we eat, or whose secretions we drink. Weird to draw the line at sex/rape, but not at killing/murder.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Weird fact, killing in movies will give you a PG-13 rating, but nudity will land you in the land of R-Rated

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Douglas Adams actually explored this. In The Restaurant at The End of the Universe, Arthur is waited upon by a sentient bovine creature whose species wants to be eaten and spend their lives conditioning themselves to be as succulent as possible.

Arthur was preeetty fuckin weirded out by that.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, is it consent if you are genetically forced to be consenting?

I loved that part of the book, fellow hitchhiker.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Is it consent if everything is deterministic and free will is an illusion???

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Okay, I am going to go drink some whiskey

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

genetically forced

Dude is deep as the 10th circle of hell.

Cuz like are they forced? They were spawned by the infinitely possible universe. Implying that free will itself is fundamentally constrained by biology, or perhaps the deterministic nature of the universe itself.

It reminds me of the lyrics,

Are we not good enough?

Are we not brave enough?

Is the violence in our nature

Just the image of our maker?

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Now you are quoting Rise Against!? Are you me?