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[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 108 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (6 children)

Why are we sending someone to "Extra Hell" for making an improved image format that has better compression and is an overall improvement over all 3 of the existing formats it replaces (jpeg, png, gif)?

Shouldn't this apply to ~~everyone~~ the companies who refused to adopt it, thus breaking every normal image workflow? (Same thing can be said about JXL)

Edit: fix vague wording

[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Because it's Google trying to control not just everything ELSE about the internet, as if that wasn't enough, but even what image formats we use.

If PNG and JPEG aren't good enough, which they often are, by the way, JPEG XL is right there.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 85 points 15 hours ago

Because they have a poor user experience with an OS and applications that have chosen not to support it properly, and blame the image format for this

[–] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

I'd say the knowledge about webp's benefits is not mainstream at all, I learned about it last week from a random YouTube video. So when people download a file that isn't working as expected they don't know who to be mad at so they make memes like this.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have comments about your first question, but they're mostly stupid on my end. I think the problem for most is related to your 2nd question. Google is doing it's google thing where they do a lot to force adoption with a goal of doing nothing to support it. Combine with a general distrust of Google.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm realizing my wording might be vague, by "everyone" I meant the big tech companies that didn't implement it, like Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Adobe. AFAIK most of the open source apps actually implemented support pretty quickly, and obviously it wouldn't be the end users' fault because they can't change what formats are supported

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Webp has shit application support. Even Google won't support it for half their workspace apps.

[–] groet@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I having not encounters a single program that couldn't handle webp. Window, Linux and android. All browsers, all image viewers and editing software I use just works™ with it

[–] the_Interceptor@lemmus.org 1 points 8 hours ago

Photoshop didn't for a surprisingly long time.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How to determine if webp is lossless? Old format easy, jpg vs. png.

[–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As an expert in image processing:

.png supports pretty extreme compression, while a jpeg can also be lossless. The extensions tell you nothing except which family of algorithms was used to encode/compress/store them.

Webp though, webp is only used for the internet. I mean, you could use it other places, I guess.