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Four Republican backbencher candidates who failed to qualify for the first 2024 GOP presidential debate this week slammed the Republican National Committee over its rules, with multiple contenders calling them “rigged.”

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[-] Veraxus@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Political parties exist for the sole purpose of rigging politics by disenfranchising the public. Their entire existence is a kind of corrupt, elitist caste system.

These organizations need to be treated the same way as corporations that get too big: they should forcibly split up. Force parties to form coalitions to get anything done, like in other parliamentary systems. Take away their corrupt levers - like FPTP voting (force RCV instead) and dark money, and return power to the people instead tolerating it in the hands of a couple private, invite-only cabals.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Political parties should be outlawed, not just split up. It should be a crime to include a party affiliation next to a candidate's name on a ballot. (Or an indication of which is the incumbent, for that matter.)

[-] drbluefall@toast.ooo 6 points 1 year ago

The issue I always find in the proposal to ban political parties is: how do you stop people from just reinventing them under a different name?

[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It absolutely would happen. Even if we somehow wiped the idea from everyone's mind, people would start to group up again because it's simply more effective than going it alone. We learned that as a species a long time ago.

[-] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, like Seattle Seahawks, or Chicago Bears...

Politics really would become a contest between sports teams.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously, you can't stop people from freely associating (see the First Amendment).

But that's not what's important. What's important is that the current two major political parties have been given a whole bunch of special privileges that make them quasi-official parts of the government, and all those need to be permanently stripped away.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I fully agree. This vote by tribe sh*t HAS to stop. Humanity SHOULD be better than f*cking tribal yawping.

[-] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

As much as I am against the two-party system I am not in favor of sacrificing our right to assembly, especially in the context of assembling over shared politics, on the altar of "hopefully that'll make elections go better."

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I made zero statements about restricting peoples' speech. Merely that humanity should be more intelligent than basic tribalism.

If a basic competency test offends you, I really do not know what to say...

No one has mentioned overt political gatekeeping. Just basic competency that we ask of all citizens. If that is too much to ask, then I'm afraid you have no idea what contributes to a competent leader...

[-] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To make political parties illegal is an attack on free-speech and the right to peaceful assembly. You would have to directly violate the first amendment in order to ban political parties.

I hope you are not being literal with your concept of a “competency test.”

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

We also need to change the voting system too. Approval voting is ideal for a no-party system. All candidates getting approved by some min number of people get elected.

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