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It's all lip service (discuss.online)

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Which the Bible explicitly calls out. Can't be bothered to research it in the scripture right now (I'm an agnostic these days) but it says it's better to revere God privately and mean it than to make a whole performance out of your faith just to look good.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, fellow former Christian! Do you also find it infuriating that we know more about Jesus' teachings than literally every politician who claims to be a Christian?

Matthew 6 is all about this. People think the Sermon on the Mount was just the beatitudes, but Jesus spent more time talking about how wrong it is to make a show of your faith.

Matthew 6:1-4

“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

And it keeps going.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Verily, and thank you for the quotation! 🙏😅

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it's a classic case of self-contradiction. Both old and new testaments are full of calls to openly and explicitly praising God.

Cases in point:

God instructing Joshua to have the Israelite army, led by priests carrying the Ark of the Covenant and blowing rams' horns, march around the walled city of Jericho.
The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19–20: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations..." and Mark 16:15: "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation."

[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not christian, but that's not really a contradiction. According to the bible the best case scenario is for you to proclaim your faith to others while truly following the scripture. The part you're replying to just means that the "following the scripture" part is more important.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The part you’re replying to just means that the “following the scripture” part is more important.

The old testament is a constant call and refrain of prophets and kings denouncing a lack of piety, rallying the people to some triumphant reform, getting too comfortable, abandoning piety, and collapsing the society. Sometimes you get this cycle in a single generation. Other times it is used - for instance, with King David - to explain how sins of the patriarch doom the kingdom centuries later.

So much of scripture is people not following scripture and reconciling with the consequences. And then new people coming in to reaffirm and reform the old laws.