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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Leninist created a government with a extremwly powerful class, that owned all means of production.

The... proletariat class? Are you suggesting a working class in Russia didn't exist prior to 1917?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The workers didn't own the means of production!

[–] Semjeza@fedinsfw.app 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That user is suggesting that the Party administration, by virtue of controlling the means of production was definitionally not proletariat, but in fact the most concentrated group of bourgeois administrators.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

the Party administration, by virtue of controlling the means of production

Before the Russian Civil War was even over? An incredible feat of administrative enginuity.

the most concentrated group of bourgeois administrators

The Soviet Bureaucracy was 5.4M people strong by 1920. Even assuming you dismiss the existence of Communes as autonomous self-governing bodies, that's 4% of the total population.

This is what we're describing as highly concentrated bourgeois wealth?

And we're comparing it to King George V who - as a singular person - controlled 37% of the entire national economy through his titles, lands, and equity in various British conglomerates?