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[–] vanillama@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is any of these apps good for phone calls or video calls, or just text messages?

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

At this rate Canada would probably ban anything they can't get records from eventually if it got popular enough. I hate this timeline.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And Canada is supposed to be “the good guys”.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

no good guys out there as state actors, some are the "lesser evil" and we all have to live somewhere

[–] vanillama@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

They have great PR, but other than that no, unfortunately

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I started self-hosting xmpp recently, and the calls work perfectly! You don't need to self-host either, there are plenty of public servers.

[–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I tried XMPP but could not find a client that let me have a "video call" where I could share my screen without also needing a webcam. Or even have a video call where not everyone is forced to have a video flux. As far as I can tell an audio call cannot be turned into a video call for 1 streamer.

Like in Discord where one want to share its screen while playing. XNPP was my biggest hope to replace Discord with my friend but I either did not find the correct client or the ecosystem is not mature enough (or oriented in the direction I expected).

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, screensharing is not a thing in most clients, but I think it's a matter of time (years?) before it's properly implemented. In the meantime, you can use jitsi meet? Not sure if it covers your use case. I'll just copy this reddit comment, which has some good info:

Yes, it’s possible, but with some limitations. For video calls between a Linux and a Windows client using ejabberd, you need an XMPP client that supports WebRTC. Some options: • Dino (Linux) – Supports video calls but no screen sharing. • Gajim (Linux/Windows) – Can do video calls with plugins, but no screen sharing. • Jitsi (XMPP mode) – Supports WebRTC and screen sharing but requires a separate Jitsi server. Since most XMPP clients don’t natively support screen sharing, you have two main options: 1. Use Jitsi Meet, which integrates with XMPP and allows both video calls and screen sharing. 2. Use OBS VirtualCam (on Windows) to share the screen as a “camera” in a video call. If you want a fully functional setup with both video calls and screen sharing, setting up Jitsi Meet with ejabberd is the best approach.

[–] basilisa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Arcane chat (a delta chat client) offers video/audio calls as well

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] basilisa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think it is. I don't remember seeing it before.

[–] basilisa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The arcane chat dev is a fucking shit head so knowing delta chat has video chat as well will definitely make me go back to it.

[–] mote@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

It's been in DC for a few versions now, we've used a combination of: macOS desktop, Android mobile, Linux desktop, iOS Mobile - and haven't had problems more than usual getting apps access to the cam/mic on macOS.

They just dropped DC 2.57.0, it hit F-Droid and Arch repos in my morning updates. An update to the relay code was also dropped, 1.12.0, for relay operators.