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[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

In my case I think they really were angry because I am a Russian (only) citizen but I have never lived in Russia. I don't hold an inner passport, only an outer passport (absolutely unfathomable to them), and I actually did at a point try to get the basic insurance set up, but I would have needed the inner passport for that. For them it was absolutely whack that I am a Russian citizen that has no Basic Insurance number and my very special circumstances (to add to that, at that point I was fluent in speaking and absolutely illiterate in reading and writing) were too complicated for them to follow and "every person has an insurance number wtf you're Russian wtf is wrong with you just go and get a fucking number what's your problem wtf why don't you have a passport everyone has a passport from age 14 onwards wtf what is wrong with you" was absolutely the attitude.

But really, I understand, my situation was very complicated and my reasons were valid but going into all these details in a clinic, let alone an ER setting, would absolutely tire and drain the last remaining energy out of them. I absolutely prefer them being not lovey dovey and hand holding while telling me with a compassionate smile that they cannot do a CT scan without an insurance number, but instead getting necessary treatment and analysis on the spot. I don't care if you call me names. I'll forever be grateful to them.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I understand how confused they were!

Medics are absolutely not prepared to see something like this. Your case is very much out of the ordinary, and honestly, I didn't know you can have outer passport without an inner one. Doesn't the consulate provide one? Or did you just never bother to? How were you legally present within Russia without an internal passport?

Glad that the situation worked out fine, though

[–] OliviaVespera@spacey.space 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago) (1 children)

We mean, internal vs international

In Russia at least, there can be two types of passports:

  • Internal (внутренний), which serves to identify a citizen within the county
  • International (заграничный), which serves to identify a citizen abroad

The international (travel) passport is laid out in accordance with international guidelines and hosts visas, stamps of arrival and departure etc. It is meant to represent you as a Russian citizen abroad, and it's the most essential travel document. It is written in English. You can also have two copies of this passport.

The internal (local) passport contains detailed information about person's place of redidence, marriage status, children under 14, military duty and other things that are mostly essential for the local authorities. It is written in Russian. You can only have one.

International passport is normally only used abroad, and internal one - within Russia (and it can also identify you in Abkhazia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, South Osetia).

[–] OliviaVespera@spacey.space 0 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

@Allero Is it in book form or is it a card like an ID card?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 5 minutes ago

Both in book form.

Although the newer international passports have an ID card woven right into the book.