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Jimmy Wales (wikipedia founder) joins Gaza genocide talk page, says Genocide is contested and pleades for "neutrality" (en.wikipedia.org)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus to c/wikipedia@lemmy.world

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Quote from him:

I assume good faith of everyone who has worked on this Gaza “genocide” article. At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested.

A neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: “Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.”

Respect for Jimmy Wales 📉📉

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[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just figured he was trying to save Wikipedia from getting axed by those in power in some countries who are pushing back very hard against anything that has sentences containing both "Israel" and "genocide" in it.

We've hit such staggeringly outrageous levels of "forced propaganda" in the U.S. (people getting fired from their jobs for speaking I'll of a dead guy?) that if I was Jimmy, I'd be worried about the whole thing going away if it catches the eye of the wrong person at the wrong time. I don't agree with what he's doing for whatever reason, but the fact is that while Cloudflare may be able to survive 2.2 whattabytes[sic] per second, Wikipedia will not.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

I just figured he was trying to save Wikipedia from getting axed by those in power in some countries who are pushing back very hard against anything that has sentences containing both “Israel” and “genocide” in it.

This is not the case.

But I am pro-Israel. That doesn't mean I'm anti-Palestine. This is not a controversial position. My views actually aren't in any way shocking or unusual. 9:30 AM · Apr 16, 2019

https://x.com/jimmy_wales/status/1118069048493740032

You can search his profile and find the last time he mentioned anything regarding Israel, Palestine or Gaza was 2 years ago, besides a post referring to the ADL discussing how wikipedia banned editors for antisemitism.

What you can find, however, is many, many, many posts over a number of years claiming Jeremy Corbyn was antisemitic and had made the Labour party antisemitic during his tenure as leader, something which happened largely due to Corbyn being pro-Palestinian and was used as a smear campaign against him.

And now out of the blue he declares this article not up to standards, and the only argument he consistently formulates is that some governments disagree and they have to be given equal weight.

Gee whiz, I wonder why.