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Zohran's victory is very much overhyped in my opinon (Kind of a rant) (hexbear.net)
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Mind you, I'm biased since I'm not from the US, I'm Balkan. So a quick heads up there. Plus I'm a hardline commie so yeah. Just did some research on this because It caught my eye.

I haven't really noticed this here or at Lemmygrad. But a lot of online "leftist" spaces, especially on Reddit, are over hyping this shit too much lmao.

Zohran so far:

This circlejerk about a social democrat getting elected is doing my head in, people are acting like the October revolution happened.

Just don't act surprised when magically not much actual change happens in New York. Also don't give me "Oh but the pipeline!!!1!". Yeah If the pipeline actually worked, Bernie and AOC supporters would have been actual marxists by now (Also as a Serb, fuck Bernie, Parenti was right about your dumbass).

I have a pet peeve with American "anti-capitalists" in general. Where they constantly just whine how everything is expensive, no public transport and no free healthcare. Yet they'd probably be fine with the world suffering as long as they got those three things + whatever treats they want.

Don't forget to join a good org nearby you, read and organize folks!

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[–] Aqloy@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, the occupy wall street stuff from years ago showed that there was class consciousness in a large part of the population. I was a kid, but that's when I learned of "the 1%" for the first time. But it never really went anywhere, right? I always wondered where all that energy went.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The energy had nowhere to go. No organization, no plan for escalation or how to achieve demands, and no representatives to speak on its behalf. Spontaneous horizontalist approaches naturally wind down or get cooptes by bourgeois interests and both happened to OWS.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

If We Burn by Vince Bevins has a great analysis of those types of movements, and essentially ends with Bevins saying (in so many words) “we need a Leninist party”, lol

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But it never really went anywhere, right? I always wondered where all that energy went.

This is something that an mind-boggling amount of ink has been spilled on. The main issues are that there was inadequate organization by the leftist factions and it got coopted by liberals and petered out like every directionless liberal protest project.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

got coopted by liberals

Thank goodness that isn’t gonna happen with mamdani sweat

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

liberals can't co-opt something they founded