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Resources to dispel Russia and China imperialism myths? (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 months ago by starkillerfish@hexbear.net to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6792069

I've been running into this conversation quite a few times recently with fellow organizers: that China and Russia are imperialist powers because they are expansionist. While I understand in my brain why this is not the case, it is difficult for me to argue the case. I wonder if there are any useful (and short) analyses / frameworks I can use in a conversation, because I start losing people when I get too into depth in theory.

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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm working on an introductory port for Russia here, specifically regarding Ukraine. It's far from finished but you can find plenty of useful sources in the comments.

As for China, I'd just ask them what "expansion" it's been doing for the past few decades. If they're referring to China's projects in Africa, helping countries move beyond resource extraction and basic refinement to higher levels of commodity production does not in any way align with the goals of imperialism.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

the introductory post is so good! will definitely take some time to look through it

As for China, I'd just ask them what "expansion" it's been doing for the past few decades.

they mentioned BRI as economic imperialism... i was kind of baffled tbh.