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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6792069

I've been running into this conversation quite a few times recently with fellow organizers: that China and Russia are imperialist powers because they are expansionist. While I understand in my brain why this is not the case, it is difficult for me to argue the case. I wonder if there are any useful (and short) analyses / frameworks I can use in a conversation, because I start losing people when I get too into depth in theory.

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[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 months ago

As for Russia specifically, the claim is incredibly silly: https://mronline.org/2019/01/02/is-russia-imperialist/

As for China, no because imperialism means wealth and labor extraction (not just a solid market position), and terms need to be unfavorable to one country for that to happen. China is a major trading partner for most countries in the world, but as its seeking allies, it does not want to alienate them, and so keeps terms usually in favor of the other country.