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X11 is already dead IMO, if you didn't move yet (still on i3wmfor example), it's time to upgrade.
I'm proudly retro computing then. X serves me well.
If things work for the user then I don't see the need to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. Future is with Wayland for sure but if things are okay for them right now, not that much reason to switch
Definitely. The only problem is when things start being breaking for X11, it will a forced less pleasant upgrade.
Just like everyone can use Win XP, but none of latest software like browsers support XP. So do it at own paste now or be forced to upgrade later.
@idriss @Saapas It's still an upgrade we've known for over two decades that we needed. The X protocol is inherently insecure by design - showing its age. If Wayland manages to nudge us a little closer to the reality of today, that's a good thing - even if it comes bundled with some diaper rash.
@idriss
Some things just don't work properly on Wayland. For example, #NoMachine remote #Plasma desktop sessions connect, show a white screen, then disconnect. Switching to an X11 session solves the problem. This is a showstopper, so I'm sticking with X.Org.
@ashleythorne
Fair
but this is more of the NoMachine not doing the upgrade than Wayland having issues. I guess the closes thing in Wayland is now https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/waypipe.1.html over ssh or simply go nuclear with full screen sharing / control with RustDesk.