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title, im paid by the hour so im wondering if its calculable the amount of time id need to be clocked in n not work to match the surplus value extracted from me

or am i stupid n misunderstanding surplus value

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[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

this all assumes it's not an investment bubble or that your boss hasn't tricked people into buying mud pies

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah that's the "not rational" part. Still though, shareholder value increase is the capital accumulation. It's the strongest value to use for this even though it's obviously messy and not rational. The capitalist system is not rational. Calculating within 1 year is less reliable than calculating within 10, which is more of a longterm investor timeline. Even if a bubble lasts 10 years it's still the value that the investors have extracted from the work of the employees. It's not a rational value, but it's still the value the employees have produced for the company owners in an entirely irrational system.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

your boss hasn't tricked people into buying mud pies

This, unfortunately, is my job. I saw some presentation for one of our new products (can't say which ofc) but the presentation included how we should focus sales on x because high profile influencers like Joe Rogan were promoting it and so it's in a viral boom phase. I hate it so much, but I do genuinely like the people I work with and have good rapport with my clients, but there is certainly times where I just feel like I am selling snake oil.

I had someone asking for something to help with a certain ailment, to which I broke and had to just tell them "Sounds like your customer actually urgently needs anti-biotics and that is a life threatening affliction, we are not doctors and they need to go to urgent care yesterday".