Jesus, that's horrific. I could never do this to someone for days on end, but I must admit I feel like part of reeducation for these people must involve genuinely exposing them to what they inflicted on their fellow human beings. I could see telling them "you aren't done with reeducation and released back into the world before you have spent two hours in the conditions you forced on these people. Part of this process is teaching you empathy and it clearly doesn't come naturally to you, so you don't get the luxury of just thinking about how horrific this thing you did to your victims was - we need you to experience it. You don't ever HAVE to but until you choose to you can't be trusted to exist in public."

Probably wrong but god DAMN do they deserve it.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The fucked up thing is some torturers do have empathy. They go home and have nightmares about it and develop psychiatric issues because they know what they are doing is fucked up. And they do it anyway

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fanon treated one

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's what brought it to mind for me too

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

I think self-delusion is one of the most unique 'superpowers' that humans have. We can believe anything, be absolutely 100% certain of anything, no matter how contrary it may be to all the input of our senses and all reasoning of our minds. A whole lot of it boils down to "This thing is completely morally wrong, and people who do it are bad people. But I do it and I'm not a bad person."

And this sort of cognitive dissonance is really painful. The natural reaction to being confronted with it is to just go "nuh-uh" and stop thinking about it, or to give contradictory circular justifications which you can avoid thinking through in order to satisfy the desire to square contradictory views without actually doing so.

(Common example, imagine believing simultaneously that dogs have rights and should be treated with kindness and that other animals which are very similar to dogs can ethically be farmed for their body parts. Completely contradictory... and extremely common, even here)

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

Huh. Maybe just give em a boot to the nuts then...

Joking aside, I would guess that those people are more open to reform, as repugnant as that feels. Just make sure that they understand the problems with what they did.