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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol yeah just a run of the mill religious symbol...

You literally just said yourself that it was used while Christians genocided Muslims.

Even if it hadn't been adopted by white supremacists (it has), it would still be abhorrent.

You know that the swastika was a Hindu symbol before the Nazis adopted it, right? Is the swastika not a Nazi symbol?

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if it hadn't been adopted by white supremacists (it has), it would still be abhorrent.

yes, it is abhorrent… it’s not, however, a white supremacist symbol.
“crusader” is a terrible term for the military to associate itself with… but definitely not as terrible as a white supremacist symbol.
white supremacists have also “adopted” wearing boots but i’m not going to call everyone wearing boots a white supremacist.

[–] minnism@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So is the swastika a Nazi symbol or not?

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well yes and no.
it was obviously their official symbol and on their flags, buttons, and everything else.
But it was also ripped off and meant different things to different cultures for thousands of years.
but to answer the loaded part of your question:
Some white supremacist’s use of the crusader cross is not at all like the nazi’s use of the swastika

[–] minnism@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, so how many need to use it until it does become a symbol of white supremacy?

[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well you'd at least need it to be tattooed onto the chest of the second in command of the worlds largest armed forces in the world, in a country that's rapidly pivoted towards white Christian nationalism.

So it's safe to say this isn't about white supremacy.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] minnism@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I thought it might be something like that.