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There was a thread about this not long ago.
A MAGat posted a meme of a riot and claimed it was in Portland.
People pointed out that the picture was actually a Right wing riot in a different place.
The MAGat responded that it didn't matter, because it was a meme, not intended to be taken factually.
Yeah. This is something I keep realizing.
So many people simply seek to 'support' their tribe/idols. Scientific debate isn't the point; loyalty and conformity is.
It’s a feature of a lot of religious culture. And, in an oddly similar way, influencer culture.
And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it unless there's a really huge personal connection/issue.
Its like the popular culture right now is just being seen. Being seen sticking to your faith, sticking to your commitment or truth. Being seen rooting for your side to show that you dont care what anyone else says.
Everyone needs to be seen and seems to think this is how they get rewarded for their faith, heck it works somewhat.
Could it be because attention-based algorithms/structures reward it?
I don't think it's because of the internet/algorithm. You can see a lot of similarities in attitude when looking at the rise of fascism in Europe before the second world war. "Me ne frego" or "I don't care" was a popular slogan for Italian fascists. They also saw themselves as fighters for freedom and national security.
I think its just financial stress getting more common place. And appeasing those with money seems like the only way to get some yourself since you dont earn much more for being a better worker.
You have to be seen to get charity. The algorithm just doesnt help by making it so its less communal help and more rage since it is more engaging.
These are the people that seek things "to have their ears tickled" instead of ingesting the truth of the matter.
It's an important part of fascism. The idea of objective truth is devalued, so that truth comes from authority. It doesn't matter what evidence exists, or if this week's reality is consistent with last week or even itself. The point is to sell the narrative on an emotional level.
What I'm saying is that this isn't some cultural phenomenon that just happened. It's organised and intentional.
"Yes but it could be true! That's the point!!"