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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Man, these days you know a hexbear without even looking at the user.

I mean this is complete baloney! You are also using the comparison to establish some kind of “evil slavers vs democracy” narrative that wasn’t in place at all in China during the warlord era. They were all equally horrid.

This is, at best, akin to a war between all states in the US after the Boston Tea Party and a communist state, let’s just pick Arizona, slowly winning the wars and forcing the remaining faction onto Hawaii. Then the socialist party forced anyone who could read, more or less, to work themselves to death in a field in the name of communism. Glory to the people!!!

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

jesus christ read at least one book about the history of the conflict you're describing before you confidently spout nonsense.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree my characterisation is far off the mark. But the poster I responded to wasn’t even in the same galaxy, so I still considered it an improvement.

Also, I’m not Jesus Christ 🤪

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do they make redditors in a factory or something

[–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Youve gotta be shitting me

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So you acknowledge the fact that you don't know shit about the topic you're spouting off on but you still just assume you know better??

[–] randint@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They did not say that they don't know shit about the topic, not even close. They simply said their characterization is far off the marks. That means that their understanding of the conflict is far from perfect, but they absolutely do know shit about it.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They didn't say they were wrong

They just said they were far off the mark

That means their understanding is far from perfect

They absolutely do know their shit

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

far from perfect can still be good.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

far off the mark

Can it be time for you to shut up yet?

To think that you saw me make fun of you for the game of telephone you played with yourself and decided to take the final translation and defend yourself with it. Way to miss the fucking point. "Far from the mark" was already cope by someone who was simply fucking wrong about what they said.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am not going to shut up. I am not going to shut up at anyone's request. I also believe that their comment had a certain degree of truth to it.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Baby brain. "What they said may have been completely false but I still feel like it's true"

Shutting the fuck up at this point isn't a request; it's advice.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fine, I might actually take your advice. (don't gloat)

[–] randint@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

update to my previous comment: I decided to not take your advice anyway

[–] randint@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I agree. People should take how the Chinese government and the US government treat their people into consideration.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] randint@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

How constructive.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (19 children)

So are we gonna talk about how USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world? Are we going to talk about income equality in USA vs China? Are we going to talk about the Concentration camps for refugee children on the USA border? (If you are going to bring up Xinjiang I'm going to need some photographic evidence beyond vibes and zenz doing bad statistical analysis)

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Life expectancy— how the US government treats its people

[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The life expectancy of China in 2021 was 77.13 - not that much higher than the US.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Yes but the USA has a PPP GDP PC of 76400 G–K$ and China has 21500 G–K$. How can you in good faith compare those?

(Life expectancy for Mexico, marginally richer per capita than China is 70. Life expectancy for the Philippines (poorer pc than China) is 69.)

The fact that China is in the same ballpark should be evidence enough that their policies are more people-orientated. The fact that they're ahead despite the huge disadvantage should be a huge point of shame for the USA, not something to be dismissed with saying the gap is small.