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Voters want change, but still remain unsatisfied with their options

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[-] holo_nexus@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

There has not been a time for ripe in modern times for a strong 3rd party candidate. To bad the whole system is rigged against it.

[-] CoWizard@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

3rd party, on a national scale, is guaranteed to fail in fptp. The only one who wins in fptp is the least hated (of 2) candidate. 3rd party votes just suck votes that could be voted against that most hated candidate

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This isn't inherently a failure of first past the post, this is a failure of human psychology.

[-] CoderKat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

No, it's definitely a FPTP failure. If you have progressive third party candidate who mostly attracts voters who would otherwise have voted Democrat, it splits the vote. Even if the majority of people voted for either the third party or the Democrat candidate (let's say 30% each), the Republican candidate would get win even with 60% of people not wanting them.

I suspect you're thinking of people being afraid to vote third party and thus dooming the third party to lose, but the fallacy of that is assuming that everyone would genuinely vote for the third party over other candidates, which isn't the case. Articles like the one we're commenting on are only pointing out the most common belief.

[-] dhc02@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

First past the post voting systems prevent viable third parties because of human psychology. Why are we pretending to argue about how we phrase this?

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If everyone do preferred a third party candidate actually voted third party, that would change. That’s just another establishment talking point.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That time was 2016, which is why gary johnson got so many votes.

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