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Voters want change, but still remain unsatisfied with their options

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[-] UnmeltedByRain@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

I'll take old over criminal or fascist.

[-] Dreckard@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Especially an old man just restored a chunk of the social safety net. No, it's not enough yet, but Republicans are making sure of that.

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[-] parrot-party@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

The main fear with an old person is the instability it could cause if they grew ill. But the other two options are guaranteed instability. So I think I'll take my chances.

[-] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Also keep in mind that trump is basically as old as Biden.

And shows far more signs of being old. (The memory recall test thingy is not something given to someone of obviously sound mind,)

[-] zalack@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. Strong "one of those things is not like the others" energy to this headline, lol.

[-] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The thing about an old president is that even if he grows senile, there's the entire rest of their administration that generally have the same goals in mind as them.

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[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I would too, but like, could not limit it to just those three choices please?

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It’s the illusion of choice, like one may give a toddler: would you like to have bacon or sausage with your breakfast? It’s the same product, different flavor.

[-] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe in the worst funded public school system breakfast ever conceived …

Bacon is a cured pork- usually belly, and typically sliced.

Sausage is a seasoned ground meat… er… product… that might be cured or smoked or not, might be stuffed into casings or not, might (usually, unless specified,) be pork. Or not.

The two products are vastly different. And, in point of fact … Biden and the other two are also vastly different.

You might have had a point if you had said “it’d be like asking if you want cheap sausage or dogs shit.” I’ll let you figure out which is what.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Typical liberal. I’m left of that but thank you for the pedantry. It’s still pork and that goes to the wealthy and corporations, is the point. I’ll let you figure out which group works for the commoners.

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I'm leftist too and would love for someone other than old centrist men to run the country but saying Biden and Trump are the same is just ignorant. One is a straight up racist, misogynist fascist who has done irreparable damage to the country, and the other is at least somewhat competent and has enacted policies like the COVID relief stipend and pausing student loan debt payments. Yes, he also is a shill for big companies and should be doing way more. But it does make a difference for millions of people. All you do by treating them as the same is discourage people from voting, and that voter apathy is what got us trump, and could get us desantes. Short of a political revolution, that still is our best way to enact actual change. Plus, those things aren't mutually exclusive.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Good politician-bad politician ruse imo. It’s not the age so much as the recorded history. That Overton Window is so right, it’s wrong, now.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

This is actually what I find funny about conservatives. They paint someone like me as way extreme left anarchocommunist or something and its like. This is rediculous. Im just left of center and the party I vote for is just right of center. Your party is the one so extreme you see center as left.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

for me its more a choice of do you want sausage in your mouth or up your arsehole.

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[-] juergen_hubert@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago

I feel that it should be pointed out that Trump is also a fascist.

[-] zelet@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago
[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

He's the total package! Like, the kind of package you'd set on fire and leave on a neighbor's porch.

[-] IninewCrow@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

It's the state of politics that the wealthy elite owners of the country absolutely enjoy

Voters no longer vote for who they want

They vote for the best of the worst that is given to them

[-] Izzgo@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

They vote for the best of the worst that is given to them

Nothing new about that.

[-] Bojimbo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I was a lot less worried about Mitt Romney.

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[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Not even best. Many people vote purely against the thing they don't want, rather than voting for the thing they do want.

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[-] holo_nexus@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

There has not been a time for ripe in modern times for a strong 3rd party candidate. To bad the whole system is rigged against it.

[-] CoWizard@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

3rd party, on a national scale, is guaranteed to fail in fptp. The only one who wins in fptp is the least hated (of 2) candidate. 3rd party votes just suck votes that could be voted against that most hated candidate

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[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That time was 2016, which is why gary johnson got so many votes.

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[-] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Fascist, criminal, or geezer.

Ngl I know which one I’m picking (the old fart).

[-] tallwookie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

sample size of 1000 though. you'd think they'd be able to find tens of thousands of people

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[-] lunar_parking@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Totally normal "democracy", working very well. 🙃

[-] threeio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sound about right.

[-] Sterile_Technique@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

At this point, I'd be in favor of just asking 9 first-graders what their favorite single digit number is, and granting the position of POTUS to whoever's social security number matches the one they generated.

But, given our current options I'd take a clueless old man over a lucid fascist in a fuckin' heart beat. How is this really being presented as a dilemma? Would you rather have your house a bit too chili, or burn the whole thing down? Sure I don't like either option, but deciding which one's better kinda plays out like those cheesy banking commercials.

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[-] legume1096@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

DeSantis won Florida's 2022 gubernatorial election with 60% of the vote. If somehow Trump isn't able to run for the presidency it's a landslide victory for DeSantis v Biden.

[-] The_Empty_Tuple@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

DeSantis' faltering popularity in the GOP race shows that whatever is popular in Florida isn't necessarily popular everywhere else. I don't think it's a guarantee Biden loses to DeSantis, if it comes to that.

[-] sensibilidades@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

There are, in fact, other states besides Florida.

[-] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

It's impossible to know that for sure.

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[-] CookieJarObserver@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe there should be a sane person... Not a Grandpa, a criminal and a criminally insane nazi person...

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