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[โ€“] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

philosophers at the top kinda makes sense

sounds like something a philosopher would say

all jokes aside, the whole argument crumbles to dust when you consider that there's a "philosopher" who can defend pretty much anything, because it all basically goes back to things that can only be matter of opinion, e.g. dualism vs. non-dualism. neither of those polar opposites are proven "right or wrong," and neither one can be. in the end, whoever uses their rhetoric most effectively comes out on top. "philosopher" or not. case in point: fucking lying moron convicted felon rapist con man trump

power is always about people, and who's able to control them.

Plato was well aware of sophistry and corruption. That's part of why he diffused power among the entire class of philosophers requiring decisions to be made broadly instead of by any individual and why he limited the personal rights and freedoms of the ruling class. Trump would never want to be a philosopher in Plato's Republic because he would have to give up the majority of his right to own property and would have to submit to inspections of his living space and property on demand to ensure that he wasn't acting corruptly.