Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.
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They're pro China and Russia
faux far left.
A lot of us are pro China and Russia. Not all of us, some of us aren't tripping balls. I'm just kinda here, and didn't realize I was defederated with some other instances...
Probably gonna make a new account in that case, if I ever remember to actually do so
That’s what I’m not a fan of. It feels softer than it is, the information bubble. The ml admins are too good at removing dissent and it translates to users unaware of the situation. Were there informed consent, I’d feel less aggrieved.
The fact they don't list dissent or criticism of China/Russia as being bannable in the rules is one of the bigger problems. They will just ban you for Rule 1 or 2, neither of which have anything to do with that and leaving banned users scratching their heads wondering what they did wrong. Meanwhile to the other .mls, it just looks like the devs banned someone for a "legitimate" reason because the devs will leave a comment painting the banned user's comment in that light.
Example: User "BillyBobJones" expresses a dislike of China's genocide of the Uyghur Muslims. Dessalines or Davel will quickly ban BillyBobJones under Rule 1 or 2 for, say, "racism". Then they will leave a comment under the deleted comment accusing BillyBob of saying something racist and saying that's why BillyBob was banned. Unless an .ml user bothers to check the modlogs, they won't know what BillyBob actually said and will praise Dessalines/Davel for removing a racist. Dissenter removed, echo chamber reinforced.
I literally just left Xinjiang again, currently in Kazakhstan.
If you want to criticize China, talk about existing policy, not silly shit the west made up.
Maybe even come over and make some friends and ask them about their experiences.
Also p sure its lemmy.ml policy to include the post you were banned for, unlike .world who will straight up lie.
ML mods have been caught ignoring their own policy and do straight up lie as well. Both of the teams are kinda crappy.
@Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
Как оно в Синцзяне? Читал только на Медузе о нём, и там, конечно, описывается настоящий концлагерь.
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca
I can't read or speak russian.
The people, both uhigur and han, are warm and friendly towards foreigners. You'll run into a range of experiences and opinions. Some being more willing to discuss them 1on1 after a bottle of baijiu. Xinjiang has excellent wines and distilled liquors that pair well with the heavy, spicy food.
The coffee tends to be kinda bad.
You'll hear mandarin, uhigur, and what I thought was Russian. Some of the older uhigurs can't read chinese characters.
The food is excellent, they use a lot more mutton, then beef, pork is least common, but sometimes you see it.
It gets quite a bit of snow.
There's more cops and old folk hired as security(i forget the word for them) than elsewhere in China.
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@Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
Are you kazakh?
Oh, I just saw you live in Kazakhstan, I'm in Almaty rn.
American.
Yeah. Abandon ship asap. That shithole is not something you’d want to be associated with unless you love sucking authoritarian boot-shaped cock.
Supporting the current regimes in Russia and China comes across as decidedly anti Russia and China. There is nothing socialist about modern day Russia but .ml still lick their boot.
Don't forget North Korea
The ones I talked to were more like fans of the Sowjet union.
Yes, many tankies like me are supporters of the state that saved Europe from fascism including tens of millions of people from extermination. Also supportive of the lowest inequality rates in the history of the region, rapid industrialization, guaranteed employment, universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, guaranteed housing, universal retirement pensions, highest rates of unionization, and doubling-tripling of life expectancy, without engaging in colonialism or unequal exchange and supporting liberation movements all over Latin America, Africa and Asia.
As someone who grew up in an ex Warsaw Pact country, reading your characterization of the USSR is hilarious to me.
Imagine a Native American reading comments that are praising the US for how well they've done by them by giving them casinos.
Yeah, you grew up in an ex Warsaw Pact country, not in a Warsaw Pact country. Keep blaming the problems of capitalism on the system that you had 35 years ago. If it weren't for the USSR, your ancestors would have likely been exterminated by Nazis.
Make assumptions about me and my ancestry at our first interaction, I'm sure you will eventually convince someone you're arguing in good faith.
I can argue with you in at all because you're alive thanks to the USSR. Almost all Warsaw pact peoples were liable to Nazi extermination, if you belong to the few who were not, it's not a good argument either. "Nazis wouldn't have exterminated me!"
Well I hate to disappoint you, but for me the weight of your narrative pales in comparison to the first hand accounts of my actual ancestors.
Again: you have ancestors because of the Soviets.
I'm a Spaniard myself, if you ask some of my ancestors, "con Franco se vivía mejor". You know, under a fascist dictatorship. So no, the "argument from authority by old people" isn't convincing to me.
I wish the Soviets had liberated my country from fascism too, unfortunately my country is on the other side of the continent and the Soviet aid during the Spanish Civil War was insufficient (likely due to being the only country to sell weapons to the antifascists while Nazi Germany bombed them and the rest of the world looked the other way).
Again: on one hand I have the stories of my actual relatives who lived under and lost people to both nazi and communist terror, on the other hand I have an internet stranger, who doesn't seem to be interested in anything that goes against their preconceived notions.
I suggest you spend your energy somewhere else, because your line of reasoning will be either insulting, or laughable to anyone in my position.
Sorry your relatives were fascists. My great grandfather got murdered by the reds in Spain and I don't cry anticommunism on the internet because he probably deserved it. I only feel bad about having fascist ancestors.
Are you under the assumption that only fascists were persecuted under communist dictatorships, or are you just being mean?
Not only but majorly, especially outside the USSR, which took the brunt of the excessive repressions in the period between 1939 and 1942.
Well I guess being well informed on a topic is not strictly required to form an identity around it on the internet. Being ignorant sure seems to help with the confidence tho.
I'll repeat: you can thank the Bolsheviks from saving your bloodline from extinction.
Thank you, Bolsheviks, for doing a bit less damage in our area, than what you proved to be perfectly willing to inflict on some of our neighbors.
Also, huge thanks to my ancestors for staying decent in some of the darkest decades of our history. You lived and died with moral integrity in times when you could have easily gotten a comfortable living by becoming corrupt bootlickers to some of the worst despots in human history.
idk man, not enough femboys in the ussr, your point is invalid.
I have criticism for social policy in the USSR, but let's not forget that in 1917 the country was composed of 85% peasants who worked the land almost enslaved to the landowners for miserable wages, and up to 1905 the majority of peasants praised the tsar's godgiven power to rule over them.
Let's also not forget what we compare it with. "Liberal paradises" such as France were murdering more than a million Algerians in the Algerian war of independence in the 1960s.
im talking about femboys here
Sorry, I honestly can't tell much about femboys in the USSR.
The Soviet poet Mayakovksy had big puppyboy energy though, signing many poems and letters with drawings of a dog and writing things like trips on his paws
that's more to the furry side tbh
Agreed, but as I said, I unfortunately don't know much about femboys in the USSR.
Isn't tankie describing when China used tanks against their own people? I thought it referenced Tiananmen Square.
The original term "tankie" refers to the usage of tanks way earlier, by the USSR in the Czechoslovak revolution attempt.
China did not use tanks against civilians in the Tiananmen protests, the famous picture of "tank man" is a screenshot of a video in which the civilian stops the tank, has a ten minute conversation with the tank driver, and then goes away by himself.
So why is June 4th banned and you can't talk about Tiananmen Square in China then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DbijSAH1-Q
Can you show me the particular moment in the 2h long video in which the tanks are firing on / rolling over protestors?
It's towards the end.
Can you give me a timestamp?
Is this a chatgpt response for "List lots of advantages of positive things about the sowjet union and ignore the negative stuff"?
It was so successful that 4 districts of it decided to leave it in 1990 and 11 more in 1991.
Whataboutism and accusing me of being a chatbot, thats a 2 for 1!
If Euroep is so good, why did the entirety of Africa, Asia and Latin America have literal independence wars to leave it?
nope, I questioned whether you might have consulted a chatbot.
Says the person who
literally responded with "WHAT ABOUT [List of positive things done by sowjet union]???" on my first comment 😅
asks "WHAT ABOUT Europe????" 1 line after accusing me of whataboutism 😅
I'm sure, we could fill multiple pages with circular responses like "But your state bad because XY", followed by "But your state worse because of YZ", but I don't have time for this. Maybe, you find someone else...
Isn't that lemmygrad.ml, not lemmy.ml?
It's unfortunately both from some of their most prominent users.